Philly passes a soda tax. A good thing?

Discussion in 'In the News' started by goodlove8, Jun 24, 2016.

  1. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/philadelphia-soda-tax-outrage-sugary-drinks-law-201553836.html

    Excerpt from the Article

    Here’s why Philadelphia residents are outraged about the new soda tax


    With a 13-4 City Council vote, last week Philadelphia became the first major city to pass a 1.5 cent per ounce tax on sugary drinks. While it’s a win for Mayor James Kenney, some city residents and business owners are outraged.

    “I really don’t like it. I’m disappointed in it,” one Philadelphia resident told Yahoo Finance’s Seana Smith in the video above. “I think it's incredibly regressive, and I think the population it's purported to aid and help is exactly the population it's going to negatively affect.”

    The tax is expected to generate $91 million in the first year and up to $386 million over five years. Some of the money will be earmarked for improving early education and fixing neglected infrastructure such as parks and recreation facilities in the inner city.

    But here’s what Yahoo Finance found out when talking to Philadelphia residents: They’re upset that all of the money is not being allocated to pre-K and parks and recreation facilities. During final negotiations with council members, it was determined that some of the money generated from the tax will go to the city's general fund and other expenditures including retrials for juveniles.

    A Philadelphia resident told Yahoo Finance that he doesn’t agree with how the tax will be spent, calling City Council's decision a "disgrace." Another critic of the tax said it will have a negative impact on the restaurant industry and cause sales to slow.

    Here’s why: People who buy sugary drinks in the city of Brotherly Love will have to pay an additional 18 cents in tax for each 12-ounce can of soda and $2.16 in tax for each 12-pack purchased.

    The new tax will affect thousands of beverages—essentially anything that contains either artificial sweetener or sugar. Drinks that will not be taxed are those that are more than 50% juice or milk.

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    Good intents the golden road to hell?
     
  2. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    People need to get a grip.

    Local governments nationwide are always looking for creative ways to generate revenue without raising people's income tax.

    A less than 2 cent tax on sugar drinks won't hurt anyone or affect overall sales.

    We all hate paying for something, but jeez man.
    At some level we all have to pay into the system.
     
  3. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

    If they would force the stores to sell fruit juice and none of this 2 to 10% fruit jucie but 100% fruit juice to be tied to the tax then I would be for it.
     
  4. darkwawyer

    darkwawyer Member

    The way I see it...all across America people suck down sugary sodas in excess. Yes, it's their own business, BUTTTT!!!...when they go rolling into a hospital with disease related to the sugar abuse and don't have any insurance - It's becomes a tax payer issue.

    So, basically, I think PA taxes the hell out of everything (especially Philadelphia), but if that tax money is funneled to "a cause" (like paying for meds, diabetes or the amputations due to over dosing your body on sugar) other than creating a huge salaries for some 5 or 10 idiots on the soda tax board...I'm ok with it.

    I probably drink less than a case of soda/juice (combined) a year, but that's just me.
     
  5. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    Of course not all the money will be directed towards the cause.
     
  6. darkwawyer

    darkwawyer Member

    Of course not. That's the American way.
     
  7. K

    K Well-Known Member

    While that would be marginally better.... generally speaking, even most 100% fruit juices sold in the stores are not a good choice.
     
  8. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    This will actually double the price of a large bottle of Coke and also includes any drink that contain sugar such as sports drinks and tea. This tax will not go all, to education as originally stated. Its a big bait and switch

    What will happen is that a lot of purchases will be done a short trip away, outside Philly, where taxes are much lower, risking a lot of revenue, both to momnpop stores and revenue to Philly. I think this idea needs to be reworked. For families that cant afford the doubling in price of all drinks containing sugar will simply not buy them
     
  9. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Good!!!

    The people of Philadelphia, well mainly those in the hood are grossly out of shape.
     
  10. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Yup!
     
  11. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    You missed my point though
     
  12. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    I got your point but that's what I chose to focus on. Also the people who will go out of they're way to pay the soda tax will be small at best.
     
  13. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Its cheaper to drink water...unfortunately it may not be safe
     
  14. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    My point was that its a bait and switch tax as ithe money will not be used as it was originally proposed and it has a real risk of affecting small mom and pop stores. That risk is real and of great discussion locally
     
  15. K

    K Well-Known Member

    I don't think it will really reduce the number of those buying the stuff. People will continue to buy (eat and drink) what they want. It reminds me of the cig taxes. It doesn't matter how ridiculously high some of the prices get for stuff, if people want it they are going to buy it. They figure out a way.
     
  16. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Explain how a 2 cent sales tax will double the price of a $1.50 two liter bottle of coke??:smt017

    Your math doesn't add up.
     
  17. K

    K Well-Known Member

    the tax is per ounce; "pass a 1.5 cent per ounce tax on sugary drinks. "
     
  18. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Great point.
    The price of a box of cigs has more than doubled since the early 1990s.
    Hasn't affected people's smoking habits at all.
     
  19. K

    K Well-Known Member

    This is true. At least they aren't going to raise taxes on the bottled water though.
     
  20. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Seriously???

    That is kinda crappy then. I had no idea.:oops:

    After what amount does that 2 cent tax kick in?? Or is a tax on every ounce in a sugar soda???
     

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