Jesse Williams' BET Speech did you catch it?

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by blackbrah, Jun 27, 2016.

  1. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Wifey
     
  2. K

    K Well-Known Member

    Yes, you are right, clearly it was my opinion. I said "I think..." which indicates it being my opinion. Given that this is a discussion thread, member's opinions are welcome.

    While I will admit that my stating "handful" is not precisely accurate because there are more than 5, maybe you should define your use of "very" integrated.

    You mentioned you "pretty much exclusively watch shows that either cater to b&w audiences or black audiences, as well as news themes shows and news, talk shows and reality shows, etc" but you asked Beasty about watching major tv channels. The majority of shows on the major tv channels are still very white and not extremely or exceedingly Black, or any other non-white ethnicity. (See definition below.)

    Clearly there are shows out there (actors, reporters, etc) I just don't see it as being "very integrated". (Again see definition below)


    (* my definition of "very" would be from dictionary.com "adverb
    1.in a high degree; extremely; exceedingly:")
     
  3. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    TDK hit on the head

    Yes he is speaking out for the black community and he's doing more for Black's in one minute than you would do in a life time.

    He's an activists for black people while in hollywood where he can easily get blackballed for it. You are on the internet using an alias. You are such a tuff guy compared to him.
     
  4. K

    K Well-Known Member

    He may be getting extra acclaim, but he's also at greater risk.
     
  5. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Do you get why he went off on "cultural appropriation" ?

    If you do then tell us
     
  6. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member


    But his mama is white, so he can't really understand about "black struggle". He's just doing it for the extra pussy because he's light skinned & bi-racial......
     
  7. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    This is the most logical post in this thread.
     
  8. SmoothDaddy101

    SmoothDaddy101 Well-Known Member

    Don't say that because you know how much the love mixed folks. Remember, they black like us! :smt043
     
  9. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Yeah Malcolm x is some where saying "I'm light skinned and I put myself out there....damn I could've got tons of booty"
     
  10. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    I didn't follow that either. :smt043
     
  11. K

    K Well-Known Member


    Ok so....what would you suggest? You don't like who it was that spoke out, where he did it, nor did you like what he said.

    Who would your propose speak out, where, and what should they be saying?

    Regarding "when guys who look like him get harassed/followed around the store/shot by cops let me know. I'm letting you know....it happens every day.
     
  12. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    What's logical about it as oppised to tdk, k and ra's posts
     
    Last edited: Jul 2, 2016
  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Dudes that look like him don't really get the same kind of fear. He's a preferred minority with his blue eyes and light skin. Let's keep it 100
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    He literally does it all the time. This must be the first time you heard dude speak
     
  15. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Who else is speaking out like Jessie Williams fam. Show me the other black people in the spotlight who make specific points about the devaluation of black bodies and who go to places like Ferguson and Cleveland to protest who are as outspoken as he is. Who also have an almost all white fan base carrying them but actually speak out the way he does. I get he has a certain amount of light skin privilege but that shouldn't in no way diminish the actual real work dude is doing. I pay such close attention to this shit and its not like Jessie Williams is one famous voice out of many, he stands almost alone. Most of them live the "new black" lifestyle where as long as they are getting money they could give a fuck less about what's happening to other black people. I really suggest you seek out and watch more of the times he speaks out. Before he was an actor he was a teacher who got his degree in African American studies from Temple, he isn't doing this shit for attention he's literally always been like this.
     
  16. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    You both gotta ditch the chips off your shoulders it's sad as fuck. You're so focused on how he looks that what he does has almost no merit huh. Wonder what that sounds like?
     
  17. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Preach

    Preach
     
  18. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Inner race racism.
     
  19. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Agreed
     
  20. K

    K Well-Known Member

    While he may be a "preferred minority with his blue eyes and light skin", that doesn't mean that those who are lighter skinned and light eyes don't get followed around the stores or shot by cops. Those cops who are quick to shoot aren't saying oh well this one is a bit lighter so we aren't going to pull the trigger. If you really think they are, I have several friends who have lost their biracial sons to those bullets very recently who would certainly not agree with you. Granted I may be a bit sensitive to the subject given that I have spent many hours with some of these parents who's children were murdered.

    Yes let's keep it 100. Don't you think it's important to acknowledge the reality is this happens to darker and lighter. Don't you think it's important to address the issues and not get into infighting about this hue vs that? Are the issues any less valid if it's coming from someone who's lighter skin with lighter eyes?

    I'm asking the questions not to be snide but instead to say, it's easy to sit and rag about how someone who did stand up and say something may not have said it in the perfect spot, in the perfect way, or as the perfect representative...but isn't there something to be said about doing so. I notice there are many more who may fit in those choice positions who are not. It's really easy to pick apart those who take the risk and stand up, but I don't see anyone who's complaining taking the risks to do something about these issues.

    The truth is none of us know the answers. If we did, the issues would be solved. It's going to take people stepping up to do things that are outside the norm to figure out what will work.

    The level of fear....I get what you are saying. However, the "preferred minorities" have their own issues (from both sides). I just don't know how productive it is to get into the who's got it worse arguments.
     

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