Jesse Williams' BET Speech did you catch it?

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by blackbrah, Jun 27, 2016.

  1. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    Meh. Nothing special. Speech pandering to the sisterhood. The guy demonizing "cultural appropriation" and whiteness with his white mama sitting right there. I guess he don't lub his mama. What do you white mamas think of that?

    Actual black i.e. dark-skinned dudes speak out daily and get marginalized. Mixed blue-eyed good hair pretty boy says some shit and panties get wet across the land

    Fight the power on a Jew-owned network :smt017

    When guys who look like him get harrassed/followed around the store/shot by cops let me know

    Fuck outta here
     
  2. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    As long as there is insecurity and greed nothing will change. Its always been that way.
     
  3. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    I saw on report that scientists have recently discovered the molecular formula for water.
     
  4. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

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  5. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    When was the last time you watched major tv channels? It's very integrated. No such thing as WET anymore.
     
  6. K

    K Well-Known Member

    I don't think having a handful of Black, Asian, Mexican reporters, characters on shows, and a few shows that are specifically ethnic constitutes being "very integrated".
     
  7. K

    K Well-Known Member


    I'm not sure if it's a matter of getting worse and worse or changing the ways that it's manifested.
     
  8. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I pretty much exclusively watch shows that either cater to b&w audiences or black audiences, as well as news themes shows and news, talk shows and reality shows, etc and l challenge you on your "handful" quote. Black faces alone are well represented in today's TV.
     
  9. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Yeah because showing black people committing crimes and doing dumb shit is integration.
     
  10. K

    K Well-Known Member

    I don't see there is any challenge. You said the major TV channels are "very integrated now". I don't agree with that statement.
     
  11. K

    K Well-Known Member


    Yes and then there is this point as well.
     
  12. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    If that's even remotely wtf you think l was talking about, then you are dead wrong.
     
  13. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Gotta say not on us. No other group on earth is as inclusive as black people are.
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Shit interesting point but one thing I gotta give to Jessie Williams is it would be incredibly easy for him to ignore this shit and live is privileged pretty life. He gains no roles no money no extra acclaim for speaking out especially with his Grey's Anatomy fan base so this is truly a labor of love for him
     
  15. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member



    THIS.
     
  16. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    EXACTLY!
    http://betcareers.viacom.com/about.html"BET Networks, a subsidiary of Viacom Inc."

    People forget that Most Of The Entertainment Industry is owned by white men and to me, that is one of REAL issues regarding racism in the entertainment industry to start at. I liked his speech, but once again I have yet to see a entertainer call out the racism by the mainstream media and provide truth to the people that the entertainment industry is owned by white men therefore they are more bias to white entertainers than other races especially regarding white men and non-white men.

    Mainstream media can add people of color to their broadcasting team, or magazine editing team, but guess what still remains the same? The bias ways they report on white entertainers and entertainers of color mainly men of color. I remember my niece saying to me when Idris Elba won two SAG Awards in the same night earlier this year, that if that was george clooney or matt damon the media wouldn't shut up about it. They would of been all over the today show, entertainment tonight... The praise would of been very high, but since it was a Black Man that had that big night the media kept it moderate. Or how Black Panther was one of the marvel heroes that stole the show in the Captain America Movie and was a BIG fan favorite, but he wasn't a MSM favorite... they gave Chadwick Boseman another moderate response.

    I just wish entertainers of color would talk more about those things and more related to it, because to me that is the very core of the race issue.
     
  17. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    You not agreeing and suggesting its only a mere five or so that reflect Black, Asian and Mexican faces is irrelevant, because that's just YOUR opinion.
    We can look at some positive data of integral gain.

    In 2013, the number was ZERO.

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    Also..........


    Black Stars Shine in 15 New TV Shows Worth Watching This Fall
    These new series feature black actors in key roles as the networks continue to bet on diversity.


    Akilah Green
    BY: AKILAH GREEN
    Posted: September 16, 2015


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    http://www.theroot.com/articles/cul..._in_15_new_tv_shows_worth_watching_this_fall/

    Also.......

    Movies with black casts are winning at the box office right now

    September 14 2015

    As The New York Times reports, this weekend marked the fifth consecutive weekend that a movie with a predominantly black cast was the highest-grossing film at the North American box office. Five weekends in a row!

    http://fusion.net/story/196936/movies-with-black-casts-are-winning-at-the-box-office-right-now/
     
  18. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Also..............

    Pilots 2015: The Year Of Ethnic Castings
    by Nellie Andreeva
    March 24, 2015 6:30pm


    There was a noticeable shift toward minority castings last season, with more parts opening up to ethnic actors, a casting term used for non-Caucasian thesps. It was a concerted effort, with more than one instance where a family member role was rewritten as adopted to make them ethnic.

    Then, following the success of freshman series How To Get Away With Murder, Black-ish, Fresh Off The Boat, Jane the Virgin and especially Empire, which launched to huge ratings at the kickoff of pilot casting season, ethnic castings exploded this season.


    The change is welcomed by talent agents who no longer have to call casting directors and ask them if they would possibly consider an ethnic actor for a part, knowing they would most likely be rejected. “I feel that the tide has turned,” one agent said. “I can pitch any actor for any role, and I think that’s good.”

    Because of the sudden flood of roles for ethnic actors after years of suppressed opportunities for them, the talent pool of experienced minority performers — especially in the younger range — is pretty limited. That has led to a feeding frenzy, with a number of straight offers locking in ethnic talent before they could be snatched by another pilot.

    This is not to say that there weren’t other hot commodities this pilot season; star names were in demand as usual, as were hot young guys and girls and occasional foreigners with that “sparkle.” But the big trend this pilot casting season was the huge spike in the number and prominence of roles that went to minority actors.

    Some of it has been organic. Last year, the leads in Extant and How To Get Away With Murder, originally not written as black, became ethnic once stars of the caliber of Halle Berry and Viola Davis became interested. Such was the case with Jennifer Lopez and Eva Longoria, who both commanded on-air episodic orders from NBC when they committed to star in drama Shades Of Blue and comedy Telenovela, respectively, as well as Paula Patton, who lifted the cast-contingency off the ABC drama pilot Runner. (ABC and 20th TV cast Patten, who is black, knowing already that the male lead had been conceived as Hispanic. The role went to Adam Rodriguez.) That also was the case with meaty supporting roles on Fox’s Gotham last year, which went for Jada Pinkett Smith, and NBC drama pilot Endgame this time, landing Wesley Snipes.

    Also not earmarked as ethnic was the lead in NBC pilot Strange Call, a remake of an Australian series, which went to Community‘s Danny Pudi. CBS tried for a year to cast its comedy pilot Taxi-22, a remake of a French-Canadian series, until John Leguizamo signed on. And testing alongside actresses of different ethnicities, Natalie Martinez landed the lead in the NBC martial arts drama pilot Warrior.

    But there were more broadcast drama pilots than ever whose leads had been designated as black this year. That includes Fox medical drama Rosewood, toplined by Morris Chestnut, and CBS civil rights crime drama For Justice, starring Anika Noni Rose. Uncle Buck was rebooted by ABC specifically as a black family sitcom, with Mike Epps in the title role originated by John Candy. NBC opted to make the lead couple in its drama about diverse couples Love Is A Four Letter Word black in picking up the pilot. (It had been originally conceived as Caucasian.) After a post-table read recasting of the female role, the two leads went to Cynthia McWilliams and Rockmond Dunbar.

    There also have been a number of drama co-leads on which the networks chose to go ethnic this year, including Supergirl’s male lead, cast with Mehcad Brooks; one of the four female leads in ABC drama Broad Squad (Rutina Wesley); and the female lead in Minority Report (Meagan Good).

    ABC, which has been in the forefront of the current wave of ethnic programming with freshmen How To Get Away With Murder, Black-ish, Cristela and Fresh Off The Boat, is leading the pack again with two black family comedies: Uncle Buck and Delores & Jermaine, starring comedian Jermaine Fowler and Whoopi Goldberg. The latter was based on the real-life experiences of comedian Fowler, as is ABC’s medical comedy Dr. Ken starring Ken Jeong. Additionally, NBC has Latino family magical drama The Curse Of The Fuentes Women with Hispanic lead cast, and CBS has the Rush Hour remake with black (Justin Hires) and Asian (Jon Foo) leads.

    Uncle Buck and Love Is A Four Letter Word are among several projects where the original white protagonists have been changed to black this season. ABC’s medical drama pilot The Advocate was based on the story of former CAA agent Byrdie Lifson-Pompan and Dr. Valerie Ulene, who launched a healthcare consulting company. While the real-life inspiration for the two central character are both Caucasian, the show cast them Policewomengraduates_1972with one white actress, Kim Raver, and one black, Joy Bryant.

    As the photo of the 1972 graduation of the first 12-women class of the Boston Police Academy indicates, they appear to be all white, as were the members of the original Broad Squad, Rachel Keefe and Patricia Murphy, Boston’s first all-female patrol team. That is no surprise as non-Hispanic Whites constituted 80% of Boston’s population in 1970 versus 16% blacks. While set in the 1970s, ABC’s drama pilot Broad Squad, inspired by the real-life events, has a lead cast more consistent with Boston’s current racial makeup of 45% white non-Hispanic and 27% black as one of its four female leads was written and cast as African-American, Wesley.

    A lot of what is happening right now is long overdue. The TV and film superhero ranks have been overly white for too long, workplace shows should be diverse to reflect workplace in real America, and ethnic actors should get a chance to play more than the proverbial best friend or boss.

    But, as is the case with any sea change, some suggest that the pendulum might have swung a bit too far in the opposite direction. Instead of opening the field for actors of any race to compete for any role in a color-blind manner, there has been a significant number of parts designated as ethnic this year, making them off-limits for Caucasian actors, some agents signal. Many pilot characters this year were listed as open to all ethnicities, but when reps would call to inquire about an actor submission, they frequently have been told that only non-Caucasian actors would be considered. “Basically 50% of the roles in a pilot have to be ethnic, and the mandate goes all the way down to guest parts,” one talent representative said.

    In one instance, after a number of actors of different ethnicities tested for two roles in a pilot this year, two Caucasian actors ended up being the top choices for the two remaining regular parts. However, because of a mandate from the studio and network, one of the roles had to diverse, so the pilot could only cast one of the top choices and pass on the other to fulfill the ethnic quota. “They need to say the best man or woman wins,” one rep suggested.

    Replacing one set of rigid rules with another by imposing a quota of ethnic talent on each show might not be the answer, some industry insiders say. Empire, Black-ish, Jane the Virgin and Fresh Off The Boat have been breakouts because they represent worlds and points of view that were not on TV — a soapy hip-hop dynasty, an upper-class black family struggling with racial identity, a young Latina juggling her dreams and her heritage and an immigrant Asian family trying to fit in.

    Television has been successful with shows that had both all-white (Friends, Seinfeld) and all-black (The Cosby Show) casts on the strength of their premise, execution and talent performances and chemistry. It is for the same reason that Scandal, HTGAWM and Empire have done so well with Kerry Washington, Davis and Taraji P. Henson as the respective leads.

    Trying to duplicate those series’ success by mirroring the ethnicity of their leads is a dubious proposition — if that was the key, 2010’s Undercovers, a slick drama with two appealing black leads, Boris Kodjoe and Gugu Mbatha-Raw, should’ve been a hit.

    While they are among the most voracious and loyal TV viewers, African-Americans still represent only 13% of the U.S. population. They were grossly underserved, but now, with shows as Empire, Black-ish, Scandal and HTGAWM on broadcast, Tyler Perry’s fare on OWN and Mara Brock Akil’s series on BET, they have scripted choices, so the growth in that fraction of the TV audience might have reached its peak.

    As the broadcast networks are looking to add a number of new series targeting black viewers in the fall, we will see if that viewership can further expand (Empire and Black-ish have managed to successfully to co-exist in the same time slot this midseason). Since broadcast TV is a historically reactive business, that will determine whether the trend of ethnic casting will come back with a vengeance next season.
     
  19. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Blackish and fresh off the boat is hilarious

     
  20. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    He's getting plenty of "extra acclaim" for speaking out. More than you'd get, that's for sure

    This is like the movie "Surrogates" only here it's biracials who are our best selves that we live through remotely
     

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