UK to EU: We are outta here.

Discussion in 'In the News' started by glt1980, Jun 24, 2016.

  1. glt1980

    glt1980 Well-Known Member

    Most knew it would be close but not many expected the result. In a stunning result the people of the UK voted 52%-48% to leave the EU.

    The result has sent worldwide financial markets into a tailspin, UK prime minister David Cameron has announced his resignation this fall only a year after being re-elected. Scotland a part of the UK which voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU is now wanting to revisit it's independence after a narrow vote to remain part of the UK last year. Then there are rumors of companies already looking to move jobs and operations out of the UK. Airbus a french company employs 15000 in the UK may be on the move , morgan Stanley was rumored to be looking to move 2000 jobs froom London to Paris (though a rep came out and said it was false, if that is to be believed).

    The vote basically came down to the older white working class out voting everyone else. Voter turnout was over 70% the last us presidential election only had 54%.
     
  2. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    U.S. voter turnout for the presidential election was 62% in 2008, 57% in 2012 and 54% in 2000.

    I think Great Britain screwed themselves.
    We'll see.

    Most of the voters who were in favor of Brexit will be dead in 20 years.
    Many of those opposed to it will be around for 50+ years to witness the aftermath.

    The old eating their young. Awesome move, UK.
     
  3. APPIAH

    APPIAH Well-Known Member

    As an Englishman i am so pissed i wanna smash something. The arrogant segregationist attitude of some English people has come to play again, the Scots and Northern Irish voted overwhelmingly NO and yet they are saddled with this decision. I can guarantee the Scots will devolve from the United Kingdom the next time there is a referendum. It will be a bit tricky for Northern Ireland because the number wanting to join the republic of Ireland and the number wanting to still be part of the UK is about the same.

    I really dont care about Cameron since i support Labour and hopefully we will come into power in the next election.:cool:
     
  4. Westie

    Westie Member

    Time to book a cheap trip to Europe. :smt080
     
  5. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Sadly no one who supports the EU gave reasons why it is important. If you don't have skin in the game.
     
  6. sarah23

    sarah23 Well-Known Member

    I think in the longer term, Scotland will vote to leave the U.K. and rejoin the European Union. Also, N Ireland will move closer to joining the Rep of Ireland. Already there has been a upsurge in applications from N Irish people for Irish passports.
     
  7. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Sarah,the two governments of the UK and Ireland has said there would be no vote on Northern Ireland being part of Ireland anytime soon. There are still the Ulsters who don't want to be with Ireland in any circumstances.
     
  8. sarah23

    sarah23 Well-Known Member

    ..... and the Ulsters who don't want to be part of the U.K.
    I think the U.K. wil finish like the Soviet Union. Each territory for itself.
    Many in Europe, like in France are probably happy that the UK has left. President De Gaulle always considered the British to be too close to the USA anyway.
     
  9. Bug

    Bug Well-Known Member

    I must admit I was surprised it turned out this way I was expecting it to be 60% in favour of staying in.

    If I'm honest myself I was undecided and could not cast my vote with conviction so ended up not voting at all, which is a first for me as I usually know what side I'm on.

    I understand the benefits of being in the union but at the same time wholeheartedly feel it's inadequate at this present time to represent the interests of the British working classes.
    (think 0 hours contracts and sidelining of workers rights, those at the bottom of the pile are not taken care of in the union and the mass influx of unskilled workers makes it even harder for job security to be obtained)

    I personally feel we should have been kicking up a fuss about what we didn't like many years ago, instead of the nodding dog attitude we had.
    Our government is responsible for this change in attitude to the EU they have allowed UKIP to gain a following because of their blatant inadequacy as the idea of a referendum was used to lure UKIP voters into voting Tory.

    It's gonna be a while before we know the details of the exit but it's been four days since the decision to leave and I've been out since 7am this morning and have so far seen no chaos ensuing from this decision lol So I'm gonna stay hopeful for some sensible exit planning.
     
  10. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    I heard y'all want to do a re-vote. Lol

    Sorta like waking up to that guy next tto you and said "damn I drank that much last night?"
     
  11. Bug

    Bug Well-Known Member

    I should imagine those who didn't get the outcome they personally wanted do want a re-vote, but If we are doing that I demand a re-vote for last years general election while they're at it with a Labour majority turn out.

    Actually just do the general election re-vote with everyone seeing the error of their ways and voting Labour and I can pretty much guarantee this referendum would not have happened.
     
  12. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Good point
     
  13. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Sarah,the French did not want the UK to be in the common market since it began in 57. It took 15 years for the UK to get in and DeGaulle was responsible for it.
     
  14. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Bug,as I type this the Tories and Labour had not got their act sorted yet.
     
  15. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    I talked to a co-worker about this and he believes that since the E.U. was established with the best of intentions, things just go south because of a little corruption and apathy. So, for England to break from the E.U. to work on their own problems would be a good move. Scotland wanted independence from Britain and Ireland is also looking into this move if the North and South agree to it.

    Donald Trump sees Brexit's win as a win for him because of these older white voters who came out to take their country back. He is hopeful that such a revolution happens in the USA because people are dissatisfied with the goings on in Washington.
     
  16. Frederick

    Frederick Well-Known Member

    If you do, avoid Manchester.

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  17. sarah23

    sarah23 Well-Known Member

    That's why I say that a lot of French people are not surprised that the U.K. is leaving. Many never considered the U.K. as good Europeans.
     
  18. sarah23

    sarah23 Well-Known Member

    The E.U. has become a monolith, where big business seems to have too much influence on decisions.
    Just like the U.S.
    Without the U.K. there will be a move away from the U.S, and we will become more neutral with Russia, which is a big trading partner.
     
  19. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Sarah,because of the Ukraine crisis it would be doubtful and the relations would not be as 'full' between Russia and the UK.
     
  20. Bug

    Bug Well-Known Member

    "Good European" tell me what that looks like again? Every country has it's own identity and it's wrong to label people negatively because they embrace it.
    Personally I've always considered myself British and not European other than in a grid reference sense.

    The Russia comment is a bit far fetched to imply that Russia wasn't in the mix because of Britains influence in the e.u overestimates the power we had in there.
     

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