Why is it so hard for you women to simply say i'm not attracted to you and...

Lol...lol

 

There are those who will do what it takes, and those who will not. It's not a huge mystery as to what works. There is plenty of information out there.

If a man isn't going to make an attempt, he's not going to get results. If he gives a 1/2 ass attempt, he's likely to get a 1/2 ass result, and so forth.

I'm always reading about guys saying they don't know how to get (or keep) women) yet if they are asked, they will usually go on about why they don't want to do the basics. Yet they will turn around and say they don't know how, no one's ever interested, and so forth. They know how, they just don't want to do what it takes.

I know some on here like to go on about how it's all about money, possessions, etc. But what's interesting is if you take a good look around, most people are not dating someone with a lot of money, nor are they dating a super model, porn queen, etc. Most people are with average people. The heavens don't just open up and shine a light down upon them....they do something and keep doing somethings until they get what they want. It's no different than anything else in life. You aren't going to get a better job if you don't apply for one. You aren't going to keep your job, if you don't keep doing the things you need to do.

You either have the results or all the reasons why not.

 

So well stated. I like.... No... I love what you said . its so on point

Furthering the job search analogy. When I was looking for a job , I was getting frustrated cause it wasn't happening fast enuff. What did I do? I found a guy who was a manager and he prepped me for job interviews. I read books on getting my resume right. I kept shooting and hunting.

What I'm saying is that its cool to get advice and try it out. Adjust it to your style but don't give up.

 

One of my favorite social commentaries on the friend zone...

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Lol

 

I'm already in that position of exploring a life of solitude and seek some sense of worth in my life. As far as I know, it's really all I have to secure some sense of being here, especially when other events will inevitably occur and I'll completely lose those parts of me which makes me whole.

 

So basically you threw in the towel without getting with FAM first?

 

You sound like you are in a very negative space right now, I hope you can reach out for some help, (religious groups, charitable activities, nothing makes you feel better than helping someone even less fortunate than yourself, take a class, join a club in which you have an interest... something to get the help you seem to need fam. Life does not need to be a long slow march through hell, there is good in the world, I sincerely hope you find some.

 

Silly

 

I believe that is up to the individual. Which is why I put in The John Remington quote. I have given up and have left the arena. It will be a while before I have a relationship other than platonic. At this juncture, I am working on myself, and understanding my needs and wants and how to get them. As I am not good at getting the woman, I will simply leave them alone and be a friend, because it begins with friendship. There's nothing wrong with the friend zone. There's no drama there.

If a man's sole purpose in life is to get the woman, then he understands what he wants and how to get the woman. If you have read my posts on this subject, I have mentioned that the woman has to want to date a person. The ball is in her court, as well as the guy. I'm not going to force a woman to date me. Which is why it has to be mutual. No exceptions.

 

Sole purpose?

Who said that?

If you want to live alone without any companion of a woman then fine.

The major problem I have is that you guys have dudes willing to tell you what's up and you turn it down.

Everyone has to learn. I put a thread up about tiger woods asking for game so damn.

 

MS - I hope you are receiving treatment for the depression.

Eccentricity can be a great thing and certainly does not condemn one to a life of isolation.

I hope you are able to focus on the positives.

 

When you lose something, you gain something. What is it that you have lost? I don't think that you have lost anything. Misplaced, perhaps, but not lost. My life of solitude began in the 7th grade and I have been gearing up for it since then. Then I discovered that talking to someone about these things was helpful. If you don't talk to someone, that life of solitude will make you a very bitter person and no one will ever want to be around you or approach you.

Talk to a counselor, or a member of clergy. Or a family member. All is not lost. Where do you go when you have time for yourself? I go to a strip club with a friend of mine once a month. I go to the movies when I can. I go to the library. Not much , but it's all I have right now. I am looking into taking up a learning a language or learning how to fly when my money situation is better. Along with getting my novella published, and thinking of new story ideas, all this keeps me going.

My late brother told me that I have to find my niche. I have found it. But life gets in the way. I often chat with strangers about life. Some people understand, others are quick to to recite scripture and say,"You're not going to do whatever you want in your life. Leave it to the Lord and he'll fix it."
While these people who say these things mean well, I don't agree entirely. You can live your life anyway you want as long as you harm no one.
I think God gives a person a life and sees what that person does with it. This is a test of character.

You are in survival mode and you are being tested. Don't cheat the test. Talk to someone. Find out more about yourself before you go full bore into a life of solitude.

 

You sound like you have the getting the woman part down to a science. I don't want dudes to tell me how to get a woman and what's up. That's what you are saying. Have these men useda gun and asserted their power onto a woman to get her? Or were they cruel to women and they were weak enough to fall for it? Why would you have a major problem with guys who are not as fortunate as you?

 

Its obvious you haven't read what i posted. Go back read what I tagged.

I said everything the opposite of you are saying?

I said its not a science and I said I asked others for help.

So explain to me why you and others refuse to get info from the guys here who are willing to give it yo you.... That's what pisses me off but like its been said if you don't want to learn then oh well

 

With all that being said...you got guys like :

Loki
Bobba
Since
North and others that will love to tell you

Take advantage of it

 

I put a book in your rep section. Get the book. When me and the bros saw the name of it we thought it was bullshit. Then we skimmed thru it and we said "everything he talks about is things we were doing"

Trust me it works.

Like I said I'm not guaranteeing dimes and yiy will never strike out but your success will get better

 

I have read your post. PUAs are not the best option. I'm not going to spend money on a PUA. I have seen YouTube video clips of these men. They all say the same things. They pretty much view women in the same way.

It's all schadenfreude. A con job. Cheap psychology.

That's why I won't go to a PUA.

 

You didn't read my post. You said I had it down to a science....I said its not science... You didn't read.

I didn't say go to a pua. also and I will said it again talk to us. Talk to us . talk to us. I said you can read the book cause its the same things we will have been practicing for years. There's nothing pua about it. Trust me.

There are certain things you do and don't do. I'll give you an example.
Me and north discussed this. Getting a phone number. Should you get hers or you give her yours?

Either one is cool. North (give her your number). Me (I get the number but there's a catch in how you handle it). Norths approach is more favorable. Why? If the girl calls then she is interested (choosing is the street phrase for it).

My way is less desirable cause you can get put in the bugaboo box easily. My way is after getting the number call the next day and leave a message. If she don't call back then keep it moving.

Norths way you come off more confident. The way it do it is how I word it to a woman. I come across to a woman as a leader...still being confident but in a different way. When I get the number I say some thing like "let me get your number and I'll give you a call about going out for drinks and things ....cool" or something like that

See the logic....either way you are moving on yo the next woman.

 

Just because it works for one person, doesn't mean it will work for everyone else. North is successful because he is North, plain and simple. You are you, plain and simple. I am me, plain and simple.

You are being yourself. That's the science I am referring to.That's all. Whatever works for you, works for you. Enjoy your moments.