a girl faced expulsion for having natural hair

Discussion in 'In the News' started by goodlove, May 13, 2016.

  1. K

    K Well-Known Member

    This is a private school. Chances are they have to wear uniforms. With that comes all sorts of specifics of what can and can not be worn. Including things like hair, jewelry, makeup, you name it.

    This is something people know when they sign the forms and pay those fat tuition fees. Kids will still play with it. I went to a private school at one point, we knew what was ok and what wasn't. Girls would still push the limits and try to make a big deal about it. On "free dress days" they would really go crazy and many would get in trouble. They still were given detention, suspended, etc.
     
  2. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    no doubt to all and especially that.

    there was another issue with hair and the army. ill have to find it. it kinda fits with this issue.
     
  3. K

    K Well-Known Member

    They recently showed something on the news about a man who fought to wear a turban I believe. He won with the specifications that he must wear it in camo (and one other color - don't remember which)
     
  4. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    The problem with the girl's hair wasn't that it needed to be straightened, GL.

    The girl said herself she liked her hair 'puffy', meaning 'big'.
    She claimed she was being teased because her hair wasn't straight but when you look at the girl's pics her hair is damn near straight already.

    It's the STYLE she's wearing her hair in that's the problem.
    Her hair is too big and puffy.
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    This isn't the case of a private school demanding a young Black girl straighten her hair.

    This about a young Black girl thinking she has total freedom of expression when it comes to her hair at school.

    The school doesn't think her hairstyle is neat or conservative enough.

    Remember this young girl doesn't wake up in the morning with her hair looking like this,(I bet she braids it before going to bed), she's picking it out and probably blowdrying it to get that big afro style.

    Like K said, this is a private school.
    If they had stuck to their principles and requested she tone down that hair style IMO they would have been perfectly within their rights.

    When you see pictures of the girl it's obvious what the problem is.
    And it has nothing at all to do with whether or not her hair is worn kinky or straight.

    The school wants her to either COMB her hair so it's no so big, or wear a smaller version of her current hairstyle.

    Private schools are about educating students indirectly the value of conformity which is required of all of us at some point in the real world.

    If she wants the freedom to wear her hair however she and her parents shouldn't pretend like they didn't know the dress code.

    BTW if you go to any predominantly Black charter school I doubt you see more than a handful of girls wearing their hair this way, if at all.

    The girl is biracial and it looks like her hair is naturally almost straight anyway.

    So she just needs to comb her hair.
     
  5. samson1701

    samson1701 Well-Known Member

    I'm big on kids following the rules. Real big. But, if a white girl can wear her hair at the same length and it's okay, then It's okay for the black girl, too. Our hair isn't straight. We shouldn't have to straighten it or otherwise."tame" it to fit white standards.

    Same length rule should apply all around. Period.
     
    Last edited: May 19, 2016
  6. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    My only problem is she styled her hair that way, it's not something she woke up with in the morning.

    Nobody just naturally has a blown out afro.
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    A lot of work goes into achieving that look.

    Those little White girls with the same length hair I'm sure would be taken aside if they showed up at school with their hair teased out and sitting 6-8 inches off their heads too.
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    This wasn't just a hair issue.
    For me it was about a hair style she chose to wear.

    The school is caught in a tough spot because if they push too hard telling this girl how they want her to wear her hair, it looks racially biased.


    Another example of why you need diversity within your school administrators and teaching staff.lol

    A BM or BW could have broke it down to this girl and explained why her hair style fell outside the school's guidelines without having it appear racially motivated.
     
  7. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    I'm absolutely huge on kids following rules and dealing with the consequences of their decisions when they choose not to follow those rules. This girls big hair is no different than a white kid trying to wear a Mohawk to school. It's not about length or straight vs curly, it's more about height imo. Making her straighten her hair is definitely out of the question but making her wear it in a way that is not distracting, is not imo.
     
  8. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Lol @ equating her natural hair to a unnatural hair style
     
  9. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    Her "natural" hair isn't that "naturally" puffy. It's styled that way, just like a Mohawk would be. :smt023
     
  10. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    I and raider kinda agreed pn this I. that should couldve kept the style but cut it. they did allegedly asked her to straighten it.

    heres another problem "conservative enough". what does that mean?
     
  11. K

    K Well-Known Member

    She doesn't need to cut it.

    Simply pulling it into a pony would handle it.

    We all used to do this same thing in the 80s. You pull it back at school and the minute that bell rang we pulled it out and puffed it back up.
     
  12. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    aaw I see
     
  13. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Conservative hairstyle for a young girl means neat, tidy, closer to the head.

    This girl's hair was everywhere and looked like it needed two combs to get it right.

    By definition her hair was a 'distraction' which was in violation of the school's dress code.

    BTW the school only suggested if she was being teased because her hair was not straight, then maybe she might want to straighten it, which isn't unfair for them to say IMO since the girl is biracial and her hair is mostly straight anyway.

    I doubt she's the only Black girl at this school and I bet none of them wear their hair like she does.
     
  14. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    That's funny, tell me more about African American women hair?

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    True Life: I’m a Type 4 Natural and I Haven’t Combed My Hair in 2 Years


    http://blackgirllonghair.com/2014/0...natural-and-havent-combed-my-hair-in-2-years/


    Let me guess, your going get technical with it and say she touches her hair which makes its unnatural... which means pretty much majority of the world has unnatural hair.
     
  15. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    I'm not getting technical nor am I reading some true life clip lol. It is what it is north. This kids parents pay for a private school education for their daughter, they can afford a ponytail maker and to teach their daughter how to comb her hair for school. It's that simple.
     
  16. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

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    See the difference??

    Girl at top, hair is neat and layered.
    Girl at bottom, hair is everywhere and looks like she styled it that way.

    If a BW has really thick and long hair, you rarely see them just un-braid or un-comb their hair and just 'set it free' at work or school.:mrgreen:

    The girl needs to watch this vid.
    Two BW twins, not biracial with thicker and equally long hair except they know how to put it up in a bun.

    [YOUTUBE]xZdMfWSKMuQ[/YOUTUBE]
     
  17. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    I wrote a long winded reply weeks ago and my phone died on me, I'll reply back to this later tonight.
     
  18. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    It also mean they way they like it
     
  19. goodlove8

    goodlove8 Active Member

    Military regulations in regards to women....black women upset

    http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswi...-face-on-hair-regulations-black-women-approve

    Then later they backed up on it. I'll get that article later.

    Here's an excerpt


    The natural hairstyles many of them favored had been declared illegal: Cornrows were okay, but only if they were no larger in diameter than 1/4 inch (about the size of the diameter of a no. 2 pencil — thin). Dreadlocks were forbidden completely. And the twists and double ponytails many women had used to stay neat while out in the field no longer were allowed either.

    Many women denounced the bans as being particularly onerous to black women — especially those women who wear their hair in its natural, unstraightened state. They said it was very hard to pull unstraightened hair — which is often thick and/or curly or kinky — into official military styles.

    An additional objection came from a glimpse at a communication among service branches that described black natural hair as "matted and unkempt."
     
  20. K

    K Well-Known Member

    This is crazy! No reason they shouldn't be able to have locked microbraids or twists. WTF.

    Chances are pretty high that the officials wouldn't know locked microbraids are "dreadlocks" though.

    It's really stupid because locked braids would be a good way to go for women who are in areas where it's tough to be able to do your hair all the time.

    Then with the 1/4" reg - is that at the base? or end? middle? I mean I braid my daughter's hair and it might be larger than that at the base but the braid itself could be that or less.
     

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