Are foreign women REALLY better?

I think they are saying that a guy approaching a woman shows confidence, a man being a leader (not a dictator) and being decisive.someone who believe in themselves and comfortable in their own skin or so it seems to me in that's what they are saying

 

Can you explain that approach? Lol. Because one of you is going to have to still be confident enough to approach the other person right? :smt014

 

Hahah. Bingo! You hit the nail right on the head. (For my point of view) Thanks for being the translator Goodlove lol.

 

Lol

NP....

 

Well I was going to chime in Orejon, but these two pretty much covered it lol. I will say that I think it's beautiful when you find someone who you just click with and everything moves along, all very reciprocated. Ultimately though, I think it's sexy when the man in that scenario makes that first move. I'll make moves to show him that I'm just as comfortable in myself, but I need to know he has that before I'd move forward with him. I need to know that he can make decisions on his own and trust his own judgment. He'll see that character trait in me as well and it's something I personally find incredibly important in a potential long term partner.

 

Apples and oranges youngin lol
And here's the thing (and hooray hooray things are working out for you) it's really messed up to judge someone on a being gun shy when all the power is literally in your court. When you can go through a few dozen rejections and still approach people with vigor and confidence then you can speak on it.
It's completely natural and logical to be hesitant with a stranger for Godsakes I literally don't know you. Would you prefer that I pretend we've been friends for years? lol

 

It's so weird and confusing these days because I would be down with leading but we're always being told they want to be our equals that we are partners.
I think it may be selective depending on the woman it seems like both women are the very outgoing extrovert types who gravitate towards men who are similar and are very outgoing. My confidence comes out when I'm talking about things I enjoy/know a great deal about it seldom shows in initial interactions with people at that point I'm assessing whether or not they'll be another headache in my life lol
I'm curious when you say decisive do you about the two people in relationship like the things they do together or decisive as an individual?

 

Lol. I feel you on that statement. Just the other day I saw a bad ass woman in the store. It took me a long time to go ahead and talk too her. I got shot down but I felt better about myself though. I haven't done that in a long long time. Its fun to me (shot down or not ).


What you are talking about is the campaigning- choosing thing dudes talk about

I agree with you on where your confidence sits. Its also in the leadership deal too.
Decisive/leader. Let me give you a scenario.

You call your women and say "hey let hook up Tuesday night "

Women "sure, what you want to do?"

You "dinner at Applebee's then we go rent a movie and come back and cool out. That sounds cool? "

Woman "OK but how about that new Chinese place up the street?"

You "OK . cool. I'll get you at 6:00 to beat the traffic"


2nd scene

She calls you wanting to see you and you ask "OK what you want to do?"
.she says "I don't know . I just want to do something."

You don't have any money or just want to hold tight. You respond "OK. Well come on over and we will watch TV and just go on the fly from there. "



You have things in mind and you tell her and allow her to cosign (not dictating....leading)

 

A demonstration of power by any man is attractive to women. The issue is that a woman doesn't want just any man because she will choose only one man for a purpose. Be it friendship or a serious relationship, she's in the driver's seat. If she walked into a room full of "confident" men, she's not going to date all of them. Therefore the man has to stand out like a god above insects. That's my issue with the idea of "confidence". Because every man is confident in their own way. It isn't a sign of weakness or cowardice because the man doesn't approach the woman. A pua ( pick up artist) would advise men to say hello, introduce yourself and walk away.

 

You just answered about 10 thread topics in this forum. It's not rocket science. You should be able to read if a person is into you. If you'll have another date. If that kiss might potentially lead to something or if was dead. If you're on the verge of chasing/stalking. ECT. It's crazy that some people lust so hard that it makes them naive to the fact that they're not wanted.

 

I'm wondering if maybe part of the interest in "foreign" is because the perspective is that people from outside the US are more clear about gender roles?

Just a thought.

 

Yep. I think we tend to make it harder than it should be

 

I think so too. Also they may think they are more docile than american women

 

Women are cowards when it comes dating for the most part that's why they find approaching so attractive, because they ain't got it in them.

 

We can agree to disagree. I don't think it's messed up at all to be turned off by someone who pussyfoots around me. I have a strong preference for men who aren't that way. I'm not sitting on the sidelines laughing at those men, or calling them out on it or anything like that. I'm not rude to them in the least, I just prefer a stronger personality. There's nothing wrong with them, or me, we're just not a fit.

Your comparison of women desiring professional equality but wanting a man who takes control in their personal lives, is apples and oranges. At work, I'm paid to do a job. If I do it just as well as you, we should be compensated equally and have equal access to promotions, etc. Your home is a different story all together. Im completely different at home than I am at work.

Or they've been so reserved about their desires that they lose out on any opportunity that may have been.

 

I hate to tell you this TDK but this is what all women (black white or whatever) says.
I hear women say they want a nice guy with an edge . meaning they want a man who is nice and compassionate but at the same time be able to defend her and rock the sheets.

They will look at you as weak in and out the bedroom if you pussyfoot around.

Also raider do u agree with the scenarios I put out?

 

Your scenarios were fine. It's all about communication and respect. I'm a super laid back person and after being the strict decision maker for 11-12 hours at work, I want to come home and be lead. The beauty, like you said, is that my love may have our whole night planned out but he'd change every step of it if I wanted him to. Communication, compromise, respect...all things that come into play in any successful relationship.

 

OK.

 

Word
They can barely make up there minds about what to eat in fear of making the wrong choice let alone making a choice that can lead to rejection lol

 

You call your 'women' up huh? How many have you got?

That's so funny both scenes

It's not just women though. It's on both sides. Some ppl are just indesicive as fuck. And being a decisive person it does get irritating being around someone who can't make their mind up. I have an english friend that does my head in when we go out to eat coz it takes 15 mins for her to decide on a menu of two things.

And that's the thing just because you get knocked down by one shallow bad ass bish doesn't mean you won't get swarmed over by the next. At least you had the balls to approach her in the first place.