Someone here will vote for Trump ?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by alioufall, Mar 13, 2016.

  1. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Per the bolded part above, he has slung racist mud at Black people as well... per Politifact...

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...mp/trump-tweet-blacks-white-homicide-victims/

    "Trump tweeted an image that made various statistical claims, including that blacks kill 81 percent of white homicide victims. Almost every number in the image is wrong. The statistics on white victims are exaggerated five-fold. The police-related deaths are off as well.
    We rate this claim Pants on Fire."


    As far as going to his rallies, I think it is important for the groups that he is demagoging to have a presence at his rallies to keep a watchful eye on his mongering. I think it would be smarter for them to listen and document and expose his comments, rather than disrupt, look at the link below for all of the false and half truth comments he has made, the man is a lunatic of the highest order...


    http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/
     
  2. RaiderLL

    RaiderLL Well-Known Member

    It's so disheartening to think you may actually believe the words you posted, especially because I think there are many other young Americans who view this issue similarly. To passively accept Trumps war on Mexicans and Muslims simply because it doesn't affect you, is incredibly naive and short sighted. Trust that he WILL turn his attention from those groups, to others, eventually. Will it still be no big deal at that point? Why not stop the storm while it's still semi-controllable instead of letting his hate permeate this country until it's a full fledged war between its citizens? We have to be proactive when it comes to the cancerous hate that man is spreading. You're very much of a reactionary mindset and I think that'll end up biting you in the ass when it comes to the equality and treatment of minorities in this country.
     
  3. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    People forget about all those national town halls the Obama administration conducted before the vote on the ACA and at nearly every one there were protesters who stood up and shouted down the speakers, sometimes ending the discussions.

    NO ONE was ever beat down by the audience.
    No riots.

    This is all a Trump phenomenon.
    He's a wanna be thug. The scary thing is he's got would be goons who want to follow him.
     
    Last edited: Mar 16, 2016
  4. flaminghetero

    flaminghetero Well-Known Member

    You told me you stand by your illegal mexican Brothers.
     
  5. samson1701

    samson1701 Well-Known Member

    North after the election

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  6. Westie

    Westie Member

    Succinctly put.

    *golf clap*
     
  7. Addolorata

    Addolorata Active Member

    I don't think he is good for diplomacy. While I am a not a big fan of the Democrats either, if it came down to it I would vote demo. ugh
     
  8. Satchmo

    Satchmo New Member

    I don't find anything interesting about Trump except for one thing: sooo many people are voting for him. Quite possibly a majority of Americans could support him in the general election. That's a lot of people. They defy stereotypes; all segments of society are represented among them. It's his supporters -- and not Trump -- who are the fascinating and elusive characters in this. They're the real story I think. And what the rest of us think about Trump clearly doesn't matter, so that bores
     
  9. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    I think Trump gets crushed in a general election against Hillary.

    We're hearing from a vocal minority right now, but when shit gets serious and your vote is actually for the next POTUS, most grown folks IMO are not going to vote for an un-serious candidate like Trump.

    Hillary is going to get 60-90% of the women's vote, 70-90% of the Hispanic vote, and 99% of the Black vote.

    There simply aren't enough angry White men to put him in the WH.

    Florida/California/Pennsylvania/Ohio/NY are all near locks for Hillary.

    That's the election right there.
     
    Last edited: Mar 17, 2016
  10. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    How do you figure Ohio and PA?
     
  11. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    The wild card factor is the anti-establishment vote. Ironically Hillary represents the business as usual part of Washington D.C. politics that a lot of Trump and Bernie voters are rallying against. If Trump can pivot to the "real change" and "outsider" message during the general election. He might be able to make this a tighter race than we think. On top of that Hillary's unfavorability numbers don't look good.

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  12. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    I do think many will see it as the lesser of two evils. It's just hard to imagine someone who would otherwise vote for Clinton swinging over to Trump.
     
  13. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    Obama won both PA and Ohio in 2008 and 2012 and Ohio is still a big union state.

    Bill Clinton carried the same states in 1996.
    Hillary should do the same.

    If people listen to Trump carefully, they'll find out what he's all about.
    He wants to help American business become more successful, which doesn't have a thing to do with increasing worker's wages.
     
  14. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    Maybe so, but Trump's numbers are even worse:
    http://www.gallup.com/opinion/polli...ELECTION_2016&g_medium=topic&g_campaign=tiles

    Republicans don't want him, independents don't like him, and Democrats absolutely hate him. Trump isn't just moderately unpopular, he's historically unpopular. I doubt that's going to change over the next few months.
     
  15. Since1980

    Since1980 Well-Known Member

    I can't find the article now but I read an article a few days ago that confirmed what I had suspected for the past few years: that Democrats start off with a pretty heavy electoral college advantage that is only going to get more lopsided over the years.

    We saw part of it in the past two elections: Democrats usually start out with enough "safe" states to get to about 220-230 electoral votes needed to win the Presidency while Republicans start with enough "safe" votes to get to just slightly over 100 electoral votes. Since all you need to win is 270 all it takes for a Democrat to flip a few swing states and they're in.

    It may not happen for a few more years but it's entirely possible that if enough swing states become reliably blue states because of demographic changes and population shifts Republicans may never win the White House again. Clinton can lose three or four of those swing states that Obama won and probably still be elected.
     
  16. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Racially insensitive but not racist so far.



    LOL!!!! You would be a perfect fit for Fox news with all that exaggerated hysteria.

    Sooooo Trump has a war with Mexicans and Muslims, please do tell? This is new to me, so sending illegals back home and stopping muslims from temporarily entering the country while they sorted thru the San Bernardino shooting is considered a war now.


    Your just a lilly white girl with idealist views who lives in a fantasy kumbaya world.
     
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2016
  17. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Democrats showing they ass

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    Anti Trump protesters are so intelligent and all about coming together but belittle theyre fellow black man

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    Anti Trump protesters are very intelligent but block a fucking highway disrupting their fellow americans day

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    Anti Trump protester can't intelligently get her point across so she resorts to screaming and saying a whole bunch of nothing. Trump supporter openly debates Anti Trump protesters who resort to a bunch of bullshit rheotic, exaggerated hysteria, and name calling in return. But but but anti trump supporters are soooooo intelligent.


    What's most disgusting is how so many blacks are on the front line fighting for people who couldn't give a shit less about them but y'all keep drinking that democratic kool aid.


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    Fat fuck needs to be supporting his damn health :smt081
     
    Last edited: Mar 31, 2016
  18. GFunk

    GFunk Well-Known Member

    Eh, fuck both sides and everything in between
     
  19. Westie

    Westie Member

    Hell no.

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  20. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

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    Intelligent anti Trump protestor is definitely feeling the Bern.

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