Is he a sexist because he hold the door open for a woman?

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  1. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-hold-open-doors-women-SEXIST-chivalrous.html

    Men who hold open doors for women are SEXIST not chivalrous, feminists claim.

    Excerpts from the article. Read the article for yourself for full understanding


    Men who open doors for women are guilty of 'benevolent sexism' according to a new study by feminist psychologists.

    Helping the ladies choose the right computer as well as carrying their shopping are also signs of 'unseen' sexism in society, according to the report.

    Referring to a group of men and women as 'guys' is also a no-no, says the research, meaning that even men who seem enlightened could be unknowingly committing daily acts of sexism.

    It could also mean that women, too, are unaware of it but are unwittingly affected because it helps to create a culture of women being seen as the vulnerable sex who need a man's help.

    Other examples of unseen sexism include calling women 'girls' but not referring to men as 'boys' and a man offering to do the driving on a long journey instead of a female partner.

    Researchers from the Society for the Psychology of Women conducted a study among workers of both genders in America and Germany.

    The volunteers were asked to keep diaries in which they were asked to note examples from a long list of both sexist and non-sexist incidents - without being told what the study was for.
    But it also included acts of 'benevolent sexism', even romantic statements from men about how they cannot live without a woman or how much they 'cherish' women, said the study.

    The research comes just two days after a celebrity lawyer sparked outrage by accusing women of victimising men by dressing in a sexually provocative way.
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    Is it sexist to be chivalrous? Also do you think feminism has gone too far?
     
    Last edited: Mar 21, 2016
  2. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Stopped at the first line. Nothing against Good love, but this is the dumbest shit since Donald Trump.
     
  3. K

    K Well-Known Member

    Ridiculous.

    I don't really care for a man to call women "girls" but I don't think of it as sexist.
     
  4. Gorath

    Gorath Well-Known Member

    I hold doors open for women. If automatic, I say, "After you."
     
  5. goodlove

    goodlove New Member

    You have been entertained. Lol

    Lol.

    I saw this (the subject/article) and I was like wtf.

    Lol

    I was tripping that this was an issue.

    I had to share this one with yall
     
  6. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    I disagree. I think they're distinct differences between chivalrous gestures and sexism.
     
  7. samson1701

    samson1701 Well-Known Member

    Shit like this is why I no longer consider myself a feminist. I'm all for equal pay. I'm all for women being able to do anything their male counterparts can do. But, what I see lately is just ridiculous.
     
  8. Stizzy

    Stizzy Well-Known Member

    Lmfao!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. Cherok33

    Cherok33 Well-Known Member

    It's not sexism. It's being a gentleman.
     
  10. K

    K Well-Known Member


    agreed
     
  11. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    I wonder why rational feminists don't tell the wingnuts who compile "studies" like this, that they aren't helping the cause?

    Because when fringe ideas like this aren't challenged, and are allowed to exist under the umbrella of feminism, it makes it difficult for moderate people to take any modern day feminist issues seriously.
     
  12. Stizzy

    Stizzy Well-Known Member

    Southern hospitality down here. Lol
     
  13. Cherok33

    Cherok33 Well-Known Member

    Does not surprise me one bit :)
     
  14. missshyness

    missshyness Active Member

    I think this is taking things to an extreme, I have held doors open for both men and women, and vice versa, it is just being nice and considerate. I see it all the time at college, if I see someone; man or woman coming behind me, and it looks like their hands are full, I hold the door open, and I have had guys and a girl or two hold the door open for me, no big deal. I do find the men calling women girls, and men men, a bit odd, but am not super offended.
     
  15. Satchmo

    Satchmo New Member

    This is another non-issue I think
     
  16. Thump

    Thump Well-Known Member

    Referring to women as "girls" and men as "guys" is more about phonic shortcuts than anything else. "Girls" rolls off the tongue easier than "women".
     
  17. DudeNY12

    DudeNY12 Well-Known Member

    I understand your point, and I'll do the same. However, with women, I'll often open the door and motion for them to pass through first. If they're older women (and men), I'll often go a bit further. An example: One day I was entering an elevator vestibule from a parking garage... As I stepped inside two older women and one older man were exiting the elevator... Upon seeing them, I immediately turned back to the door (about two steps inside), and held it open for them. They were appreciative, and one of them remarked, that I was "raised the right way". This also includes others such as those with physical disabilities. It's simply how I was raised.
     
  18. Bookworm616

    Bookworm616 Well-Known Member

    Feminist psychologists need to STFU.

    There is nothing sexist about holding a door open for a woman. It's called common courtesy, and more people should be practicing it.
     
  19. K

    K Well-Known Member

    Good for doing this. My oldest is in a wheelchair at times, definitely any time there is a lot of walking involved. One time he was in a wheelchair at an aquarium and people were bumping into him, walking over him, etc. An elderly man (my son said he had to be over 80) walked up next to him and very loudly said - Could you move and let the kid in the wheelchair see!! It's amazing how rude people can be.

    The thing with this ridiculous article and all that goes with it, is that then women will talk about how rude men have become.
     
  20. FG

    FG Well-Known Member

    Think about that for a second. It's exactly the same as telling the "regular" right wing to tell the extreme right wing nuts that they aren't helping the cause. Or the fanatic religious nuts.
    Why do you think it's not challenged? Of course it is, daily. Do you think these "feminist" nazis would just say "ok then, we'll stop" ? Of course not. Challenge them won't make them stop, neither will it stop the extreme right or the fanatic religious nuts. All of these will continue to exist and they won't charge their mind

    Yes, they set back feminism but they are as much feminists as ISIS are Muslims. Most people do understand that.

    It unfortunate and sad, not to mention, absolutely insane IMO. Fuck that shit.
     

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