P.T.S.S. Post Traumatic Slave Syndrome

So you went from I got everest to me wasting it. Lol

Moving the lines. That's what white supremist do.

 

That rate is also based on who's getting caught. I really think it's much higher for whites than what we know. I think there is all sorts of white collar crime going on that gets washed over.

Learned helplessness is definitely a huge factor. This is a silly reference and it's just a movie but it makes me think of that movie Trading Places with Eddie Murphy. It's based on the whole nature vs nurture argument that has been going on forever...tons of different studies. There's really a lot to it. Through my work, education, and personal experiences I've dealt with the welfare system and it's amazing how much people will go through to get the benefits. It takes a huge amount of time, energy, and effort which makes me agree with the idea of if they were able to focus all that in a better direction they would do so much better. But the system isn't set up that way. And when there has been efforts to shift things that have even proven to be successful they don't go anywhere and end up getting dropped.

 

I agree. I think if people would be family centered then it could get better. Meaning families live together until you really can get on their feet. I've seen two families live together (old family homes). Then pass the home down to the next generation . if people did things similar to that it would help. Its just ruff to do it

 

Resourceful enough to find drugs to sell? You think they have to look? They aren't filling out multiple job applications to be drug dealers. I did answer it with a thoughtful explanation not my fault if you choose to ignore it in favor of holding on to your myopic pov.

 

Lmao

 

Lol you crack me up but yes we can disagree and still befriends. I love that.

 

Thank you. That was a thoughtful answer. Now, if some of the guys could do the same.

The reason I even posed the question is that I've watched many episodes of Beyond Scared Straight. The kids that go through the prison program before they end up there for real. A huge percent of these kids are literally scared onto a better path. They start showing respect to their parent(s), they start doing better in school, they volunteer, they get jobs, they hang out with better kids, they decide to join the ROTC program.... If they could do all those things after the prison program, why didn't they do it before?

 

Quit embarassing your alumni. Lol

 

This is a really good point....it's all around and it's more of a situation of having to go out of their way to NOT get involved in all that. I was talking with a Youth Authority counselor the other day who deals with kinds in gangs and it's much more difficult for many of them to NOT get involved than to get involved.

This also factors into that side note I posted. Often in those white rural areas it is more of a big deal to seek out the drugs. It's more of a situation of having to go against doing the right things and what is "normal". But then look at how high rate is for drug use and addiction.....often just different types of drugs. Legal opioids vs illegal.

 

That goes back to mentoring and role models. Also the old saying you know better you do better.

 

Yeah new Hampshire is catching hell with heroine right now but the governor is blaming blacks even though only 5% of their population is black and not having anything to do with it.

 

I think that's because of the motivations. There are a certain percentage of kids who are going to do the right things no matter how much they face. I think a huge part of that comes from a person caring and showing them other ways, and for some that means putting the fear into them too. I was a good kid from a good area with horrendous things that happened to me. I didn't act out because I was really scared of the consequences. That works for some. Unfortunately though most kids can't grasp the consequences and just see the good stuff. So programs like that work because it's a huge reality check. The inmates are talking to them straight and it's not just an abstract. They are seeing, hearing, feeling it. Kids don't get into gangs because they focus on all the negatives, they get into them because they see the feeling of belonging and all the perceived good things they have no concept of the consequences. They even hear the other guys bragging about jail and prison and see it as a badge of honor and respect in that realm.

If that's all you ever knew and saw and that's what your world is, that's what is normal for you, then that's what you do.

When you know better you do better. For many it takes something to really shake them to their core. They also need to have the support structure. For many it's like an addiction...just like any other.

 

So important

 

Her not knowing the far reaching aspects of white privilege doesn't hurt me, but people with that mindset have the potential to hurt my children so I tried to educate. I can completely understand why it doesn't sink in for some people so I won't waste my breath endlessly. If it's a conversation that's showing growth and promise, rest assured I'd give it my all. And I assure you, just as I said here, consenting adults can do whatever they'd like in the bedroom without me caring lol. I've said a billion times, you won't catch that word coming out of THIS ww's mouth, but if it gets my neighbor off with his gf...I've got no problem with it. It's not about me "defending" anyone, it's about me defending the right they have to do as they please. If you enjoyed pissing on your gf, I'd defend your right to do that just like I'll defend black-man-joe-blow who likes to hear his little white girl call him the n word. Why do you care so much? If it makes them happy and doesn't hurt or affect you, why do you even care? Honest question for you.

I didn't see that at all. Sorry GL. I understand what you're doing here, I'm just not in agreement.

 

This was your "thoughtful" aka "white privilege" answer to my question.

"But for every kid like your son you gotta imagine there are 10 who aren't especially ones who don't have a doctor for a father. All circumstances aren't created equal Ches."

 

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*sigh*

 

Ches I've given you every benefit of the doubt in each of my posts so miss me with your sigh. I've been as polite as possible in conveying that I can appreciate WHY you don't get it, but it is what it is. We all live different lives and I think our differing experiences go a long way in helping (or hindering) our true understanding of white privilege and how it can impact every move in life.

 

This pisses me off. We have a huge epidemic going on with the legal opioids...it's crazy! but you know....it's a white thing and it's legal. Now there is starting to be a bit of pressure on the docs who are handing it out like candy but then they are just cutting their patients off....guess what they will do next?

 

Because I seek answers to questions does NOT mean I don't know the far-reaching effects of white privilege. But too often, that's used as an excuse, a cop-out when there may be other explanations. Again, if conversations are only going to go one way when discussing these matters, it's not a dialogue.