Woman Agrees To Taking A Shower With A Man She Barely Knows And Is Raped ...

Raped or not, I'm pointing at this girl and telling my nonexistent daughter "that shit right there, Do not do it. Keep your funky ass in the house. Don't make yourself vulnerable to random fucking guy".

 

I think everyone understands that rape is rape. I'm going to go by exactly what she stated as th the truth. So, however she said things went down, that's how it happened l. Period.

With that said, I think it's not realistic for women to depend on the idea that a universal understanding of what rape is is enough to keep them safe. Everyone knows what theft is. But, women realize that universally excepted definition isn't enough to keep their purses from being stolen should they leave it unattended. In other words, if you wouldn't leave your purse vulnerable to strangers, why wouldn't you apply the same common sense to your body?

If merely saying no was enough to prevent theft or assault, then there'd be no need for law enforcement. Women (and some men, too) need to understand that no amount of education, understanding or activism will prevent most likely rapists from forcibly having sex with any woman they can. They are either unable or unwilling to control themselves. Especially in questionable situations. Give them an inch and they will take you for a mile.

What would you tell a woman who knowingly left her purse out in the open and it got stolen? You'd say it was wrong for someone to steal her purse. You'd believe the thief should go to jail. But, you'd also think she should've known better and exercised more common sense.

Ah, but woman's body isn't a purse it? A purse is an inanimate object to be used and discarded when your done with it. Well, what do you think a woman is to a potential rapist? And, no amount education or liberal enlightenment is ever going to change that. So, do yourselves a favor and guard your body using as much common sense as you would your purse. Because, once you're raped, you are raped. And that and all the baggage that comes with it, can never be undone.

At best the law can only punish. Not prevent. Most men are bigger and stronger than you. And they don't ever have to accept' "no" from a woman unless they want to. Remember that and live wisely.

 

Agree with all of this. Some people walk naively through life, ignoring the reality of the world we live in. I wouldn't wish a rape on my worst enemy but I think everyone (women especially) have a responsibility to protect themselves and their safety. No one asks to be raped, but if you willingly play with fire, how much sympathy do you honestly expect to find when you get burned? I learned at a very early age that there's very few people in this life who'll actually protect us...and a stranger definitely isn't one of them. As women, we need to be cognizant of the dangers that surround us. Never put yourself in a situation you can't get out of...that's the responsibility of every woman. It's not fair that we have to take such precaution but it's life. I've lived through rape. Questioning every move you made and how you could've/should've done things differently. I'll repeat...no one deserves to be raped. But I'll be damned if my daughter goes through life, ignorant to the potential dangers she'll face.

Maybe this man was going to rape this woman regardless of the circumstances they were in. Sometimes we can do everything right and still get raped, that's a fact of life. I hope for her sake though that she, at least internally, can reflect on how she could've done things differently

 

No, he invited her to shower with him. The right answer was "No, thank you." Instead, she agreed and then poses her naked self asking us for sympathy. Mmmmno.

 

However, HAD you raped her, you would have the "understanding" of some here, and blame her because "she was putting herself in DANGER going home with YOU". Well now.

But big, BIG surprise (to them) - YOU didn't rape her.
Why?
Because you're not...A Rapist.

And no woman laying next to you telling you no, will ever make you become one.
Why?
Because you're not.... a rapist.
See? Easy peasy.

 

:smt023

 

She's trolling for attention and dragging a man's name through the dirt(and the legal system) in the process.

 

Exactly this. I'm not a rapist and I'd never rape a woman but I know that some men out there will do exactly that if given the chance and more. People rape, rob, steal, and kill every single day. Like it or not, that's the world we live in.

I don't have any kids but if I did, I'd advise both my son and my daughter to be smart about where they are and who they're with. Women are more at risk of sexual assault than men are but for nearly everything else men are more more likely to be at risk when it comes to violent crimes, especially young black men.

That's true, but bear in mind not every single person thinks that way. Not every single person is a burglar but when I go to work in the morning? I lock my doors. Not every single person is a car thief but when I get out of my vehicle? I lock my doors. Not every single person is a robber but do I keep large amounts of cash on me at all times and tell the world what I have on me? Not at all. Not every single person is a drug dealer but am I going to give some random person a ride "around the corner?" There's no way in hell.

If someone breaks into my house, or steals my car (which has happened before), or robs me at gunpoint then it is not my fault at all, but even then I take steps to minimize the fact that the world is a dangerous place and that you can't trust everybody. Hell, I don't go out at night my damn self and on the off chance that I do find myself somewhere strange I always park my car under a streetlight and make sure that I try and stay in well-lit areas. I don't socialize with people I don't know all that well by themselves because you don't know who the hell they are or what they're capable of doing.

I'm not trying to blame the victim at all because rapes are caused by one thing, and that's rapists. But anyone would be a fool to do something to make yourself an easier target the way that she did.

 

Common sense says that she shouldn't shower with someone she didn't plan on having sex with, but dude still could have dropped the ball and ruined the moment (hard to imagine I know lol) causing her to change her mind. Some people mess up the easiest opportunities to get laid, it happens.

In any case he should have took the loss and moved on instead doing what he did. (Assuming he did it)

 

I wouldn't have the understanding. People would just think the women was incredibly stupid. Some would even think she was lying if immediately after she went to social media and posted a ridiculous absurd story like agreeing to go with me for a shower.

No one is defending the rapist what everyone is saying is that she should have had basic common sense. If I where to go to a biker bar in the middle of nowhere and started screaming black power and got beat up by Hells Angel people would think I was an idiot. If I go to the feeding room of a dog pound covered in steaks people would think I was a dumb ass if I ended up being eaten by dogs.


People shouldn't run around thinking everyone has the best of intentions. Naive women shouldn't run around with the assumption every man isn't a rapist and should have basic common sense and take precautions. Such as not going with a guy to a shower or not being alone with a random guy that clearly wants to sleep with them. Similarly If I knew someone had a problem with me and wanted to kick my ass wanted me to meet somewhere private. I would not meet that person without at least a few stronger friends that preferably hit the gym regularly and love fighting, because I hold basic common sense.

If there is a fat women or old women that I held no interest in clearly was flirting with me and interested. My answer to a shower at their place would be "Hell no!" My answer to being alone with them would also be no. Because I know what their intentions are and hold basic common sense.


The main point that seems to be argued is that if women (and for that matter men to.) Who are full grown adults should have basic common sense? No one is excusing the rapist. Some people doubt a rape occured becuase of how stupid the story sounds.

 

Hahahahah I do agree it is possible he ruined the moment or its possible she had second thoughts/changed her mind. To me that would make the situation more believable than the current. "I was just doing it for the shower."

 

So much truth here.

 

Tried to rep you but have to spread it around. Excellent post.

 

This probably the best analogy of how a rapist views victims that I've ever seen. Great analysis.

 

Who but HER says she changed her mind?

I betcha' he has a different take on the situation.:smt080

I wouldn't just haul off and and take her word...not hers..a woman that jumped in a shower with a stranger.

C'mon.

She has the credibility of a used car salesman or a politician.

 

This is on point.

True. I wouldn't take her word for it; just looking at a different possibility.

If I listened to a case like this in court, it would be highly unlikely for me to convict.

 

Wow! This is really sad. Clearly, this woman made a very poor choice in even choosing to go to this stranger's hotel, let alone showering with him. No one ever deserves to be raped, but I wish she had thought better of the decision she made.

 

This is sad on all levels. I look back when I was in a hot shower with a young woman. We soaked and washed each other. We held each other close and we kissed. It was very nice because she kissed me and meant it. But that was as far as it went. I couldn't go any farther with her. But I was and still am happy with the kiss. The line was already drawn And I had to respect her wishes and her body.No means no. I cannot force myself upon her or any other woman I meet. As Shakespeare says, "Leave her to Heaven." For this woman, I feel bad for her because she didn't think this situation over. The lesson I had learned from the women who have rejected me was the saying, "If you don't want it to happen, don't let it happen." She was probably attracted by this guy and he picked up on it. She could have prevented this from happening if she didn't invite him into her apartment. I hope she recovers from this experience, learns from it and moves on.

 

From the article in the OP (bold mine) :

It was only a few minutes ago but sometimes these things happen so fast it's hard to remember all the details.... I've been sick for the past 2 days and today was my first day out. I went back to my old hostel to leave a note for a friend, Nick. There was another guy there, Shakir, who was desperately trying to get with me. I kissed him once but he seemed drunk so I told him it was bad timing, I had already met someone. Before heading out, I went upstairs to say hi to one more friend, Clyde from the states. Shakir followed me upstairs and said he was going to take a shower. He invited me to join. I said yes because the water at my current hostel is pretty cold and after 2 days of being sick, I just really wanted a hot shower. As soon as I got in the bathroom, he forced me to my knees.

1. The man was a stranger to her that was staying in the same hostel (not hotel) she had been staying in.
2. He desperately wanted to get with her
3. She kissed him but he seemed drunk
4. He invited her to shower with him
5. She agreed to shower with him, despite the red flags listed 1-3

She's claiming that she was raped and we shouldn't judge her or lay any responsibility at her feet?

 

I knew it lol. Thanks for confirming that my intuition is still on point.