Random Political comments...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Bliss, Mar 6, 2013.

  1. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member



    So now that you have basically outed yourself and the fact that you don't like white women or any mixed/light-skinned/exotic/racially ambiguous kids they may have with any black men (something most of us had already figured out) how exactly are you going to faux claim that you are here for any type of "pro-interracial" support/activities??
     
  2. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    @MightyLighty literally tells on himself everyday.
     
  3. MightyLighty

    MightyLighty Well-Known Member

    America is racist, and you know! White women contribute towards just as much as white men. Spin it which ever way you want.
     
  4. MightyLighty

    MightyLighty Well-Known Member

    Where did I say that? I said just having mixed kids doesn't mean we live in a justice and colorblind society. It can be counterproductive if you don't also challenge the system also.
     
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  5. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

  6. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member


    Do everyone, in particular yourself, a favor and stop pretending that you are contributing anything to any conversations on this forum, especially any conversations concerning race. You're not "challenging" or "enlightening" anyone's views/opinions here other than making it very clear that your time and energy would be better served on an overly Pro-Black/Black Members Only site with other like minded individuals. Note: You didn't deny the fact that you don't like white women.......
     
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  7. MightyLighty

    MightyLighty Well-Known Member

    SMH, then you're a fucking fool, I wouldn't be year otherwise.
     
  8. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member


    Proud Graduate of Goodlove University I see. And just like your professor, you will learn childish name calling is equal to cutting your own throat when you do it to the wrong person.....
     
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  9. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    If his revenue stats were based at least in part on perpetuating the most heinous and despicable stereotypes about Greek women, you would not be so impressed. As far as the incarceration rates for weed, the ACLU confirms what Chris Hayes said in my earlier post.

    https://www.aclu.org/gallery/marijuana-arrests-numbers
     
  10. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    If in part, Bill O'Reilly had top NATIONAL Advertisers clamouring for him for 15 years because he repeatedly spoke of one gender of one particular nationality, l most certainly would find that fiscally impressive. You can certainly be dismayed and still impressed. Baffled, yet still impressed.

    For example, l no longer watch The View, however l am still impressed that their ratings are recently up since they began bashing the President.

    So then you watched his show religiously for 20 years? Is that what he did? - despicably and heniously stereotyped BP for twenty years?
    I have barely caught five in total, if that, because frankly he was never my go-to show on cable News.
    If he did what you say he did, l certainly couldn't back that up by wasting my time for two decades watching his show to listen to him spew all that.
    For example, l used to religiously watch Anderson Cooper for years. Loved him.
    I don't watch anymore.
    Same with Don Lemmon.
    Not for minute longer any more.
    If you watch Bill Orielly then you are helping him with his sponsors.


    Furthermore, you confirmed my previous point in which l said l didn't think they incarcerate for petty weed anymore. Its 2017.. Your article stats are SEVEN to SIXTEEN years old.:

    "According to the ACLU’s original analysis, marijuana arrests now account for over half of all drug arrests in the United States. Of the 8.2 million marijuana arrests between 2001 and 2010, 88% were for simply having marijuana. Nationwide, the arrest data revealed one consistent trend: significant racial bias. Despite roughly equal usage rates, Blacks are 3.73 times more likely than whites to be arrested for marijuana"
    *******

    Even further, your article states mere arrests - not convictions, as was cited in the YT video. Where is his current stat proof?
    Then he could ask..What are the possible additional factors in the weed arrests discrepancy, beyond racial bias?
    As a White woman who has spent much time around white people throughout my life l can guarantee you that the majority who smoked weed did so in enclosures far from the roving-eye of patrolling police.

    On the flip side, it was not uncommon for me to walk down my urban area street and smell weed on end. Chinese takeouts do a booming rollie business.

    From a comfort level, my ex-husband was very risky and even flippant whenever he would smoke while out, whilst l was paranoid and always checking around.

    Today though, thankfully, weed is like smoking cigarettes and one is barely arrested anymore, let alone incarcerated.
    Which is what l said.


    ....Finally l was dumbfounded that the video commentator actually supported and subscribed to the one Philly study finding that POVERTY is worse to a Black child than Crack exposure is. Really??

    Frankly, OReilly's shouting delivery was rude, loud and angry..who the hell would want to listen to him speak like that.?
    So l ask you seperately Loki, are the stats he cited correct or not? Is that a viable conversation to be had, or not?
     
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  11. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member

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  12. archangel

    archangel Well-Known Member


    Lots of old people. You did finish pointing out how he was #1

    old people eating their memberries


    Also, you live in a liberal city off of the cuffs of a liberal presidential administration. Light one up in front of Jeff sessions and see where you end up.
     
  13. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    We will have to agree to disagree that O'Reilly was impressive in ANY way, again if he disparaged Greek women the way he disparaged BP (Black men in particular) you would be singing a different tune for sure. It's easy to be diplomatic when its not you in the figurative crosshairs Bliss. Think about WHY he was so popular for that many years, he told older,conservative, and overwhelmingly White viewers, that racism really is not prevalent anymore, that the majority of the ills of the Black community are self inflicted, that Black people are, lazy, immoral, prone to crime (with tattoos on their foreheads), and in general that "Black Culture" can only be discussed in ghetto, ignorance, and poverty-stricken terms. For his target demographic his words were like manna from heaven. You bet I checked in on his show from time to time over his run on Fox, it is ALWAYS a good idea to know what the enemy is saying about you and your people, far from a waste of time.

    I am curious as to what caused some of your political views to swing so far to the right? And why it seems that you are so certain that liberal sources, viewpoints, ect. are wrong or at best specious now?

    Lastly, im sure I could find more recent stats on weed, but the point I was trying to make is that clearly, BP are far more likely to be arrested (and potentially) incarcerated for possession of weed, even though the usage rate is very close between BP and WP. OReilly was using that stat to promote a LIE, something he was very good at, what he was doing was intimating that somehow BP were more prone to criminality than WP when in reality BP were simply targeted by law enforcement for the same behavior other ethnic groups were doing, he knew that such specious actions would be more manna for his demographic.
     
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  14. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    ^^^
    Loki, you mentioned things l was not aware of, of O'Reilly. I appreciate your comments.

    l want to respond to your particular question to me upon further reflection when my thoughts are clearer. It's Friday night, about to go out and not currently feeling in that heavy mood. Thanks again for sharing your POV.
     
  15. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member


     
  16. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Some fact checking on Trump's first 100 days

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...t-checking-trumps-associated-press-interview/

    "I've done more than any other president in the first 100 days, and I think the first 100 days is an artificial barrier, " Trump told AP White House Correspondent Julie Pace.

    Trump stretched the truth about his accomplishments as president so far throughout the April 21 interview.

    Here are those claims, fact-checked.

    "I saved $725 million on the 90 planes… And the reason they cut — same planes, same everything — was because of me."

    Trump’s claim is Mostly False. The savings on the F-35 fighter jets are real, but they were in the works long before Trump got involved.

    The Defense Department has a plan to acquire more than 2,400 F-35 aircraft from Lockheed Martin over 20 years, at a cost of around $379 billion. During his campaign and transition, Trump said publicly he wanted the costs to come down, and he held discussions with Lockheed Martin representatives.

    On Feb. 3, the department announced a $728 million cost reduction. But in taking sole credit for this, Trump ignores that projected costs for the F-35 had been dropping for years, and the Pentagon had worked on lowering the price tag under past administrations.

    "I've done more than any other president in the first 100 days."

    Trump’s claim is False.

    Trump has had some achievements in office, such as signing 28 bills and numerous executive orders, filling a Supreme Court seat, and overseeing a drop in border apprehensions. But those achievements are much less numerous and far-reaching than those of standard-bearer President Franklin D. Roosevelt, who signed 73 bills, greatly expanded the role of the federal government, and revived the banking system from collapse, all in his first 100 days.

    In more recent years, other presidents have accomplished more in their first 100 days than Trump has, historians say. President Barack Obama, for example, signed not only a nearly $800 billion stimulus package to combat a spiraling recession but also the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act and a law expanding the Children’s Health Insurance Program.

    "Somebody put out the concept of a hundred-day plan."

    Pace pressed Trump on the fact that his campaign put out a plan for what he would accomplish by day 100, April 29. Trump tried to distance himself from the plan during the interview, as if he had nothing to do with it, but the proposal came straight from his own mouth.

    "What follows is my 100-day action plan to make America great again," he said in Pennsylvania Oct. 22, 2016. "It's a contract between Donald J. Trump and the American voter and it begins with bringing honesty, accountability and change to Washington, D.C."

    He ended the speech by saying, "On Nov. 8, Americans will be voting for this 100-day plan to restore prosperity to our country, secure our communities and honesty to our government."

    We’re tracking Trump’s progress on his campaign promises, including those he said he would accomplish in his first 100 days, on our Trump-O-Meter.

    Trump had "never heard of Wikileaks" when WikiLeaks published emails and documents belonging to the Democrats in 2016, and he doesn’t "support or unsupport" the organization.

    Neither claim rings true.

    Trump had heard of WikiLeaks before, as CNN’s Andrew Kaczynski found. In 2010, Trump suggested those involved with WikiLeaks should face the death penalty, after the organization WikiLeaks published government documents leaked by Chelsea Manning (then known as Bradley Manning).

    Trump adopted the opposite position in 2016, when WikiLeaks released documents that damaged his opponent, Hillary Clinton. He repeatedly praised WikiLeaks on the campaign trail and turned information leaked by the group into major talking points.

    On Oct. 10, 2016, Trump declared, "I love WikiLeaks."

    "We create a lot of jobs, 500,000 jobs as of two months ago, and plenty created since."

    Trump is greatly exaggerating here. The United States created a combined 317,000 nonfarm jobs in February and March, Trump’s first two full months in office for which data is available.

    Perhaps Trump is including January, when the Bureau of Labor Statistics counted 216,000 new jobs. But he came into office at the end of the month.

    Trump has a history of questioning Bureau of Labor Statistics data and misrepresenting how their employment calculations work.

    Quick hits from the interview, with context:

    Trump’s broken promise on declaring China a currency manipulator.

    How much have border crossing apprehensions gone down under Trump?

    Trump’s flip-flop on whether NATO is obsolete, and why.

    Russians tried to hack the Republicans but didn’t go as far as they did with the Democrats.

    Trump did score a "Mostly True" rating when it comes to illegal immigration from Mexico...

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...says-illegal-immigration-down-61-percent-ele/

    Trump said, "Since the day of my election, we've already cut illegal immigration at the Southern border by 61 percent."

    While U.S. Customs and Border Protection does not provide border apprehension statistics for specific dates, monthly data show a 60 percent decline from the month of the presidential election, November 2016, to February 2017.

    Experts said other factors should be considered in the decline and that it’s too early to tell whether low apprehensions will become the new norm or if they will increase in coming months, as they typically do.

    We rate Trump’s statement Mostly True.
     
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  17. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Wow. Trump says " congratulations" to the veteran that he pinned the purple heart on. How the fuck do you congratulate a man for losing his leg?

    Ridiculous.
     
  18. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member


    I'm starting to see why Fox News is the #1 news network.
     
  19. RicardoCooper

    RicardoCooper Well-Known Member

    LOL @ "Goodlove University" :D
     
  20. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

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