"Detroit"...I'm gonna rant a bit

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by JamalSpunky, Jul 14, 2017.

  1. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    lol, they are trying but I'm still seeing positive responses outweigh it all. Something tells me it's not going to work, especially with the white women in the film not being portrayed in a negative way and that's a win. Because if it did work, they have an upper hand and will be coming after other films featuring mainly black men or black men and white women in a romance, because they would feel they have the power to affect it.

    One of the reasons why I wished a movie like A United Kingdom came out later this year and in more theatres, because it was being hailed by critics as real Oscar contender.(doubt that the award shows will pay any attention to it.) A movie like that showed the racism for black men and white women and how love conquered it. That type of movie needs mainstream attention, because it is becoming abundantly clear folks are trying to normalize and justify their disdain and hatred for this union, unfortunately more so black women. David Oyelowo already addressed the racism against Interracial unions of black men and white women during his press tour of the movie, but this was before Get Out came out and people misinterpreted the film as a reason why black men shouldn't date white women. A film like that will obviously bring these women the attention they keep trying to get, but the L they don't want because I believe they will lose this debate when this discussion is open to more and more people.
     
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  2. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Smdh

    This matriarchal shit is about as toxic as coonery. Black men need to expel these diseases. It causes 90% of the disfunction and stupidity.
     
  3. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    If brothers are organized there would have some IR flicks.
     
  4. Soulthinker

    Soulthinker Well-Known Member

    Remember Save The Last Dance? It made a lot of money and aclaim but,somehow it frittered away.
     
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  5. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    Yeah, because people were still fighting against racism in the industry with kid gloves. It was also geared towards a generation of kids with a short attention span without much knowledge and weren't up on how hollywood worked so Hollywood was able to quietly and smoothly weasel it's way away from the success and continue doing what they do. Young audiences especially young female audiences all you have to do is put a "hot" white guy or a white pop singer in their face and you can easily distract enough of them.
     
  6. Reverie

    Reverie Well-Known Member

    Didn't John recently say he was looking for his beautiful black queen?
    I mean, why isn't it enough for them that he prefers them in his privatlife...
     
  7. JamalSpunky

    JamalSpunky Well-Known Member

    You would think so but....
     
  8. Reverie

    Reverie Well-Known Member

    Weird they don't understand they are making it difficult for him, since he is not the one that makes the decisions.
     
  9. Reverie

    Reverie Well-Known Member

    This is how you talk about a horse. I once read how a boxing enthusiast remembered Muhammed Ali after Alis death last year, and described the young ripped Ali as the most perfect male specimen he had ever seen, he reminded the writer of the steeplechaser Red Rum, the horse too was red skinned and all heart. My soul almost left my body when I read it. Did he read what he self wrote? He actually compared Ali, one of the most beautiful & sexy men ever, a human being to a thoroughbred.
     
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  10. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    If he said that, that's dangerous territory and potential career killer if he doesn't honor that. Just ask Jesse Williams.

    And especially when he is open to playing the love interest to white women and having them as one in movies. They WILL be that petty.
     
  11. Reverie

    Reverie Well-Known Member

    True, Heaven and hell for John if he falls in love with someone else than a black woman now. But it isn't John who makes the decision who is his love interest in the movies he will be in, but there are few and far between any sex scenes between a black man and white woman on the big screen anyway.
     
  12. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member

    Time to see more of the most tragic moments in black history presented to you by a white writer, white director, and white producer... America's favorite past time is profiting off of black pain and tears, and now they even give you an Oscar for it.

    What happened? Did the well on slavery movies dry up? Did they get tired of watching black people get whipped and raped by their slave masters? Time to freshen it up and watch black people get beaten and raped by the police... Thanks Hollywood!
     
  13. JamalSpunky

    JamalSpunky Well-Known Member


    Hold up. Weren't you the one who posted in this thread last week that this was a boring movie that you weren't interested in? So why are you back here now? And why are you wasting everyone's time with Black Twitter talking points?

    Who gives a fuck what the color of the people are who behind the film? It's about the talent they have, the care they bring and the respect they show to the material. I trust Kathryn Bigelow to do justice to this story more than I do 90% of the working black directors. That's because of her ability as a filmmaker, not her first-hand knowledge of the black experience. I'm old enough to remember when black people were angry that the best white filmmakers weren't telling more black stories. Now black folks get up in arms when they do. Unless of course the film is strictly about black women like "Hidden Figures" in which suddenly black people give the thumbs up and ask for white filmmakers to provide as much of that shit as possible. And frankly black people, like you, would complain about quality film that touches upon black victimization even if the filmmakers are black. I know of many black people who were angry about "12 Years A Slave" despite having a black writer and director. And the presence of a black director wasn't enough to draw black audiences to "Selma" because they didn't want to see "any of that Civil Rights stuff". And that's African American moviegoer in a nutshell. Want no part of slavery movies, want no part of Civil Rights movies, want no part of anything that concentrates on the struggle of their forebearers. Give them Kevin Hart instead.

    Black people should think about forming a committee and get a consensus on what they want and what they are going to whine about. A couple of months ago they were livid with Sofia Coppola for NOT using black characters in "The Beguiled", a movie that takes place during the Civil War. Coppola explained that she didn't feel she could adequately do justice to the story of black slaves. That wasn't good enough for self-righteous Black Twitter Nation though. Weeks later Bigelow provides a film that DOES include numerous black people, a motion picture that tells their story and displays their pain. And Black Twitter Nation shifts the goalposts and gets pissed off about that too. Fuck them.

    Only a fool who knows next to nothing about the business of Hollywood would think that making a movie about the abuse of black people by evil white folks in authority is some surefire way to make a profit. There are easier and more alluring topics for white filmmakers. Certainly topics that would generate less headaches. I applaud Bigelow and Mark Boal for stepping outside the comforts of white society by bringing us a story of a heinous act. A story I'll add that no one else (including black filmmakers) was trying to bring to light. So why don't you take your light weight opinion to a board that better suits your particular level of interest, such as the "Ghetto and Ratchet White Women" thread you blessed us with.
     
  14. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Basic torture porn which I won t watch anymore
     
  15. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    Why not? Didn't it involve White women? Were there not White cops? It's everyone's story that were there and White women were there.
     
  16. 4north1side2

    4north1side2 Well-Known Member


    Keyboard warrior, I already pre-purchased my ticket for a showing tomorrow night.

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    Hope you didn't stub your fingers in the process of typing that mini essay.
     
  17. Bliss

    Bliss Well-Known Member

    I think the Black'Committee', by those self-appointed in charge, has spoken on behalf of you....and it's more Tyler Perry movies that they want!
     
  18. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    You know what I realize, as much as the media has pushed white UFC stars like Connor McGregor, Ronda Rousey, & Brock Lesnar. If you watch actual UFC highlights (Like these CBS Sports highlights from last weekend's UFC event), you realize their best fighters are black men:




     
  19. JamalSpunky

    JamalSpunky Well-Known Member

    You know if words intimidate you there are always the threads full of pictures you can find solace in.
     
  20. ColiBreh1

    ColiBreh1 Well-Known Member

    I just saw this tweet from a podcast I used to regularly listen to for years:

    https://twitter.com/TheMTRNetwork/status/893682983726706688
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    https://www.mtrnetwork.net/movie-reviews/audio-reviews/detroit-well-made-torture-porn/

    BTW I stopped listening to their podcasts last fall after listening for almost 5 years because ultimately they are they represent the worst stereotype of a male feminist ally, Representation Matters, & pro-neoliberal/establishment Democrats segments of black twitter


    Anyways, their review is laughable because they LOVED "Moonlight". "Moonlight" was nothing but gay black poverty porn for white liberals. But with this film they think it's torture porn & are wondering who the intended audience is. After skimming through the written review, I'm convinced if this exact same movie was directed by someone black (especially a BW or LGBT BM), the ww characters were race-bended into bw, 1 of bm characters is made gay, (& as a bonus another bm character is race-bended into a wm who is a love interest for 1 of the bw) they would've gave this movie a perfect 10.
     
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