Beyond the Point of No Return

Which is mind boggling because most of these dummies enjoy free stuff. Like public schools and road ways. In these depressed areas of the country where they haven't worked for years collecting unemployment benefits and food stamps will cry about too much government.
They don't believe in evidence and fact. What possible dialogue can you have.

 

Our racist history was crafted because of slavery. Which of course was part of the culture. Racism was created to reduce the cognitive dissonance of chattel slavery.

Most of those countries that have a better culture than here participated in the slave trade and some of them still have racist policies toward African countries. I believe those polices would be reflected in their governing laws Or at least their culture if more blacks were there.

Slavery has ended for the most part yet blacks are used when the right wingers demonize programs like welfare. That's why it's easier to keep the culture the way it is because we are here to demonize for their political objective.

All the fear mongering that is done here would not work in those countries where blacks are only 2 percent of the population.

Deeper than race? Sure it is. Class is a universal concept.

Its naive to think blacks wouldn't be used as pawns in class warfare aka racism if we were to go to these countries and not practice group economics. Those countries still struggle with class warfare its just nastier here because we are not considered human beings.

The slave trade was ended by the people that started it so they could avoid all out war with themselves. (England, France, Netherlands, Spain,Portugal, Germany)They "freed" the slaves so they could keep the war on an economic level rather than a military one. Economics goes right back to the universal class warfare in which every country on earth struggles with.

The first thing you mentioned was slavery. Slavery goes right back to economics. Which is why I mentioned group economics in the first place.

 

Karl Marx tried to end class warfare but his idea failed because it went against human nature. You can't ignore human nature in economics because economics itself is a social science.

 

I agree but again these other countries you've mention employ education as a right not a privilege, they have a general safety net that doesn't have the people at each others throats for resources. I think that's more key than just group economics. They simply don't practice oppression as a general way of governing. And again I'm not saying they're perfect but I won't delude myself into thinking that this is all there is, it gets no better and the US is the best we have to hope for in this world. Its simply just gross on so many levels and it would be easier to handle if it were just power hungry politicians and CEOs but the plain and simple fact is that a majority of the country either doesn't want us here or are completely indifferent to how we're treated. I want to have kids with my girl and to be honest I am terrified of what this country will look like when they are growing. A country where our kids can be gunned down by government employees and the crowd cheers as if we had no right to exist in the first place. Its simply not like this everywhere on earth. Don't we owe it to ourselves to be in healthy loving environments?

 

I don't its human nature as much as lesser minds couldn't come up with a proper incentive model. I think the beauty of socialism/communism isn't in the pursuit of equality as much as an agreed upon safety net. A base floor that isn't poverty and death. Can't zero be a simple house and a roof? I keep hearing we can't afford it but its amazing how quickly we find money to build shit that kills us and poisons us. Just read about a new boat they built for 4 billion dollars. While we have billions of dollars of ordinances that just sit on the shelf. We have the money we just simply lack the will because those in charge are completely void of compassion for the masses. They see themselves above us and never have to feel the consequences of their decisions until that changes nothing can. And the rest of us have to stop worshiping their wealth, stop supporting their lifestyle.

 

We can do better. Marx put too much stock into altruism. We could mix more Keynesian practices into our current model, that would help a lot. The Marx route is impractical and more Kernesian practices could remove the need for a floor.

The Kernesian principles are more scientific than simply creating a floor. Every time a floor or ceilding is used there are unwanted side effects.

 

We are quickly approaching a world where labor isn't going to have value so what happens to those who don't own capital? We're talking complete economic collapse without a flood without some kind of basic government income.

 

Revisit Keynesian economics, it could help with that problem.

The problem with creating floors is that it's a static solution to a dynamic problem. We view economics as screen shots to analyze a problem but the science itself is too dynamic to solve by writing permanent solutions.

As aspects of the economy change which happens to be frequently, so should the current approach to solving the problem.

Keynesian policy leaves room for changes in the economy and how those changes can be addressed when a competent person approaches the issues.

If technology will get rid of labor we are a long way from that..lol

I know that because I am a troubleshooter.

People will have time to step up their game if we use some Keynesian approaches and invest more into education.

There are Also skills out there that can be mastered, that don't take 4 years of study. Too many people sleep on that.

 

In many regards, perhaps so. I can explain the reasoning for why this is, but it would be like I'm writing an essay so it would be an extremely long and maybe inflammatory post.