Beyonce and Colorism

Discussion in 'In the Media' started by Thump, Feb 7, 2018.

  1. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    You can literally tell who on this site is legit and who is not when it comes to IR based on what they post about around actual IR related topics. Kind of hard for me (as someone going on 20 years being in an IR marriage) to take anyone serious about being pro-IR when the only thing you can contribute on a regular basis is IR porn & fetish related shit or how said individuals over there are somehow keeping you from achieving your greatness when it comes to being in an IR relationship.
     
  2. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Funny how he feels comfortable generalizing American women after spending ZERO time in the south. Because everything must be exactly like it was in 1918.
     
  3. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Not at all K. Culture is a tangible thing I can point too. I see it I can document it. Its like if someone said Americans are too gun obsessed. Of course it's not every single American but if someone said they don't want to visit here because the gun death toll is too high are you going to turn around and say well its not all Americans or are you going to understand where they are coming from.
    Yes there are amazing women in this country my future wife is one of them but I won't deny the culture that is material obsessed and teaches young women to expect the moon and the stars from a guy. Why do we have to deny reality?
     
  4. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Negro the culture celebrates the damn confederate flag are you serious
     
  5. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    *Yawn*
     
  6. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Countless people were hung under the American flag so its the same shit when Yankees bitch about Kapernick taking a knee.

    I'm not going to go back and forth with you on this. Just plain silly.
     
  7. Madeleine

    Madeleine Well-Known Member

    True. So us who are actually in an IR marriage or serious relationship have to push back and come up with some new topics. Just that not many could actually relate to and engage in it.
    I actually have quite a few things I could think of posting, but being the only one married to an African on this site I doubt how many people could have an interesting contribution. Things along the lines of cultural differences, how it affects marriage and child rearing and some other ones. I guess those aren't you guys' issues. Although there are some self appointed Africa specialists on this site but so far I haven't got any new revelation.
     
  8. Ra

    Ra Well-Known Member

    The bolded is the main hurdle and cause of topic derailment & poster decline on this site. Too many "don't actually know shit ass individuals" trying to convince everyone else that they are experts on EVERYTHING.....
     
  9. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Ok I'm gonna ignore the abundance of white supremacists who exist in these enclaves that want to reenact at war they lost longingly looking back on the good old days of slavery.
    I'll keep my Yankee ass up north
     
  10. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    We aren't talking about you moving south. Were talking about you generalizing it when you have no experience with it. I'm done.
     
  11. The Dark King

    The Dark King Well-Known Member

    Mofo much of my family lives in southern VA. What are you talking about. One of my brother's went to Liberty and outside of Boston I've never in my life experienced such outward open racism. The south is a culture all its own. One thing I will give y'all its ALL out in the open no confusion on what people think of us
     
  12. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    It's bigotry. In the U.S. anyway. I would love for them all to be put in that one category of racism to leave those with common sense out of this, but that is not the reality of race and racism.
     
  13. andreboba

    andreboba Well-Known Member

    In practical terms it doesn't really matter. If I say I met a racist Chinese man today, you know exactly what I mean.
     
  14. Madeleine

    Madeleine Well-Known Member

    I understand where sociologists come from with the definition but I think I prefer a wider definition that can be applied to all sorts of contexts. We shouldn't make it sound like black people can't be racist cos many are but they have the feeling they can get away with it cos they are black. Many suffer from cultural superiority complex that effectively leads to racism. They are also very big tribalist, which is the sister of racism.
     
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  15. Beasty

    Beasty Well-Known Member

    Lmao the south begins in NC. This isn't the 19th century.
     
  16. darkcurry

    darkcurry Well-Known Member

    I gave thumbs up to both of your post, because I most definitely understand what you mean and I myself have called black people racist especially when they have had something to say about my dating preferences, but as far as historical practices go, especially in the U.S. racism is the term derived from racial superiority, colonizing, racial segregation, white supremacy, ect. When you dive deep into the history and knowledge of not only racism, but race you see that it is much more than views.

    Systemic racism for an example outside of a black nation, black people can't practice that especially here in america unless they are on some Uncle Tom shit(but that's against their own people.). The way the system of racism is and has been built is much bigger than how someone feels. Culture superiority complex actually comes from racism, because without racism we possibly don't get black people especially here in America being so bigoted and holding these culturally superior views. All of it is an extension of racism that was put into place during the african slave days in America. But all are racially blithely ignorant.
     
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  17. Madeleine

    Madeleine Well-Known Member

    Ok. Example is needed here. When an African woman who has never lived in Europe (is on holiday) tells me something along the lines of " You seem to be a good wife for a white woman" what is that to you? I find it racist because she operates on the assumption that all white women are inferior wives and mothers because we don't have that culture of taking all the shit necessary to keep the family together. Because she's been hearing of divorce rates and that white women can't cook or whatever and functions on perceived cultural superiority which to her is the pure truth so she doesn't even realize that what she just said might be offensive to me. That she can't judge me as an individual based on some cultural/racial assumption. That sort of cultural superiority complex is what I have observed a lot.
     
  18. K

    K Well-Known Member

    racist:

    noun
    1.
    a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that one's own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others.
     
  19. K

    K Well-Known Member

    And as much as some on here would claim it to be different in the US....we encounter some of the same.
     
  20. Madeleine

    Madeleine Well-Known Member

    There was a prominent case in the soccer world a few years back. Stephen Keshi (then Nigerian coach) was having some issue with Malawian coach Tom Saintfiet (a white Belgian). Keshi called Saintfiet "a white guy who should go back to Belgium". Saintfiet put in a formal racism complaint with Fifa. I think he was right.
     

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