This site should be named BM/BM.com

Discussion in 'Conversations Between White Women and Black Men' started by sugar_baby, Mar 3, 2006.

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Are white women discriminated against by black men on this site?

  1. Yes

    278 vote(s)
    99.6%
  2. No

    1 vote(s)
    0.4%
  1. sugar_baby

    sugar_baby New Member

    I really believe that black men here run the show. They make the rules and everyone must follow them. There is no room for any differing opinions. And whenever a white woman makes a point or has an opinion she is shot down. This is truly sad. It like sharks at a feeding frenzy when someone says something a man doesn't agree with on this site and then when a woman tries to defend herself she is attacking.

    I have seen post after post that frankly I find very offensive and racist, but they remain open for discussion. The minute a woman comes in to defend her point of view the thread is locked.

    I am sorry I wasn't here the last few days to add my 0.02 into the MistressB thread, but sadly my husband was sick and I had to nurse him back to health.

    Hypocrisy runs rampant on this board and I think it is sad that know one sees this. No wonder there are more men than women. Frankly, I think this place is in danger of losing it women posters.

    Oh well, I have said my peace. I am sure this thread will get locked to.
     
  2. TheChosenOne

    TheChosenOne Well-Known Member

    Hey...it gets crazy on here sometimes....people have differing opinions and no one wants to agree to disagree.

    We are not getting paid to argue, but it feels that way at times. I don't have real strong opinions on Mistress B and her new man, one could see both sides of the argument....but hey...who cares....none of us are related to her, or trying to date her (I don't think) so it doesn't really affect us.

    The problem for WW here...is that y'all aren't tenacious enough on these threads...instead of teaming up the way the men do....one girl will be arguing about 5 guys and then her friends will come into offer moral support but not really offer any new perspectives on the argument which may favor their friend....also.....to my WW....you ladies should start more threads.....the vast majority are started by a handful of people....if us BM start talking about how fine a AW, LW, or BW is....than you guys should talk about how fine AM, LM, or even (gasp!) WM are....I know you ladies aren't solely attracted to BM.

    This is your site too...take ownership in it......

    This thread should not get locked......I think everyone on this site who posts regularly in the forum should comment on this....WW and BM need to talk more....society has tried to keep us from talking to each other....lets break that trend.
     
  3. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    Sorry to hear about your husband - is he better now?

    You're 100% right. On other message boards, what can happen is that strong minded women are shouted down by men, and their arguments undermined. Exactly the same thing takes place one this board, but with a twist: although every black man here is allowed to make rabid overgeneralisations about women and white women, every time a woman raises a contrary argument with respect to just about any topic under the sun, she is being RACIST.

    It's a win win situation and all due credit for them having got to such a stage of self-satisfaction, but can't say I'll be partaking in it in the future having realised what a pathetic state of affairs it all is.
     
  4. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    Haha ! I admire your optimism but I'd like to see a single one of the women here try and do that!
     
  5. mosiah1

    mosiah1 Member

    But you've already done it MistressB. I have read posts by some women like Iffy's Wifey and little Lainarain for example who say that they are attracted to men of all races. Personally, I don't have a problem with women who are attracted to men who aren't black. That just means that they haven't met me yet, hahaha! (joking)

    And why was that thread locked? Was it because of black men or white women? Or was it because of people pretending to be what they are not? The most recent thread that was locked was authored by a man, so go figure. I don't know if the webmaster is a bm or a ww, so we can't just assume that the thread was locked because of the women. It's not like all the men are in agreement with each other.

    My main thing is this: If ww and bm love each other so much, then why are we fighting so? We shouldn't change this site to bmbm.com., we should change it to bmbw.com because that's what all this arguing is reminding me of. All of this bickering is making me lose my hard-on.
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    Peace.
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    "Cant we all just....just get along?"
     
  6. webmaster

    webmaster Administrator Staff Member

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    The thread "Post photos of you and your lover" was locked and removed because it went off topic, turned into personal insults, and never recovered. Threads that go on for days in this manner usually result in someone getting banned, someone leaving, or the thread being locked and/or removed. If anyone thinks that thread should have rolled on, I'd like to hear their reasoning.

    The other topic "Hey MistressB" started off with "What happened between you and your guy... you guys separated or something...?" That question was resolved in the first four posts and then that topic morphed into a continuation of the thread that was removed, resulting in the thread being locked.

    There is a forum titled "*** Notify Webmaster ***" that any registered user can post to, as well as emailing me directly. I get emails from black men all the time concerning the forums. Since this site has been in existence (Sept. 1999), I've seen less than a handful of emails (or posts) from white women with concerns about the message boards -- including your post. The majority of the emails we get from white women concern the personal ads.

    Nope. In fact, you're now the moderator of this topic.
     
  7. sugar_baby

    sugar_baby New Member

    :oops: Okay Webmaster, you got me. I never expected this, but we will see how it goes. I guess you got fed up with me huh? Well, I am a little feisty, but a fair person. I have never moderated anything in my life, but I will give it a try.

    We will see if anyone posts here. I hope all the ladies haven't flown the coup.

    Come on ladies, come on in and give your support.
     
  8. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    And this is for a good reason too...

    this forum is an example of the reason. Whenever some of the white women in here disagree with what the black men say, they take and turn it into a debate concerning race, and then, when things don't go their way, they try to make it all about how the black men are 'running the show' and etc, when this site wouldn't even be called white women black men dot com if that were true.

    Then they make accusations about not being able to defend their positions, basically meaning that they if they can't win an argument, then they 'aren't able to defend their position' when no one is forcing them not to, but if they want to bring race into it and make racial remarks because of a certain individual black man who did, then their arguments don't hold anymore weight than the ones in here.

    The trolls don't go after white women when they come in here, and the white women are not the ones who are always being accused of 'bashing' white men, or being forced not to talk about racism just because we may not disagree, so its up to them what they choose to say and how to say it, not us. We don't have to agree with them on anything if we don't want to, but just because we don't doesn't mean that we are 'running the show' or being racist, and yet, we blacks are always playing the race card. Heh.

    So, now, since certain posters don't like one another, we all can't agree to disagree sometimes, or it will turn into a racial war? That's all I'm reading from these types of responses in here.


    And, to call us 'ganging up on a white woman' just because we don't agree with her comments about the men in here is just absurd. Maybe what she said only applied to those individual men, but don't make it about all of us, and then defend her just because as a fellow white woman, you feel obligated to.

    Point blank: If you don't like what someone says in here, as long as it's within the guidelines of the site, you really can't do anything about it, and playing the race card and the victim doesn't make any if it any easier either.

    Some people just like to lurk the site, and not post. That's up to them too, and some people just don't like to debate in the discussions, which is also up to them. No one is forced to post, or forced not to post what they say, and how they say it, so acting spoiled about it doesn't change how someone should go about what they say on the site.
     
  9. chocoluscious

    chocoluscious New Member

    Wow! This forum is one big overreaction. Just stop closing threads! As long as people "respectfully" disagree, keep it open. If someone gets out of line, warn them. If they still don't shape up, ban them.
     
  10. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Thank you!
     
  11. sugar_baby

    sugar_baby New Member

    Yeah I know, this area being put here was a total surprise to me too.

    My reason for bringing this topic up was because I was getting tired of threads being locked when a debate was ensuing. I don't really see why the threads were locked because I've seen things get a lot worse on other threads. I mean didn't someone bring up slavery and accuse someone of racism and yet I don't believe that thread was locked. And I also seem to remember someone threatening violence and putting someones pictures up without that someones permission.

    So......I was just a little put out when a few women finally stood up for themselves on this board and the threads were locked.

    Oh well, I hope this area will work out, but like I said I wonder if some women who used to post are gone for good. :(
     
  12. SardonicGenie

    SardonicGenie New Member

    Once again, none of this is about the women 'finally standing up for themselves' or whatever you want to call it. This is about HOW they stood up for themselves (how hard is it for some people to get that, instead of just inventing things into the debates?)

    And, in case you are curious, if you read through any of the topics in all of the forums, you will find certain black men agreeing with white women as much as disagreeing, WITHOUT IT TURNING INTO SOME CRAP ABOUT RACIAL INJUSTICE, and vice versa, in fact, I recall some of the men, along with some of the women in here, defending white women against the comments a few others have made about them (Cris, Mosiah, Boll, and myself, in the thread about white women's obsession with weight), so if we are able to do that, then you white women should be able to understand it if we do it when a white woman HERSELF gets out of line.
     
  13. MistressB

    MistressB New Member

    Well yes, lainy isn't here much, Iffeyswifey has pretty much gone (and I don't blame her), and I'm not planning to post too much longer. There doesn't seem much point - most of what I write gets misinterpreted, which says more about the reader than it does about me, since one of things I can definitely do is write clearly - and the only people I've seen eye to eye with this week are the white women on here, so I can't say I can particularly be bothered with it any more. But thanks for your effort anyway. :wink:

    PS: obviously not using this board will have two very positive side effects - I'll no longer be distracted from my studies, and I'll never have to read another post of mindnumbing and offensive drivel from the genius-penis that is Peybacktimebullshit.
     
  14. graphicsRat

    graphicsRat New Member

    The reaction you've complained of bears an unsurprising resemblance to that of BW when they see a BM go off with a WW. I say unsurprising because its not hard to understand their grievance. There just aren't enough men to go around (consider also that men outnumber women).

    Likewise there just doesn't seem to be enough BM-loving WW around, and when one crosses back to the other side ... this is probably what you get.
     
  15. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    Well said,SardonicGenie. The racial problems experienced out on the streets,media,etc are leaking into these discussion boards. This forum was suppose to be used to discuss ww/bm relationships constructively. Maybe we can discuss how outside conditioning on race influences people.
     
  16. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    Well, personally, I don't like it .

    Afterall, we are all here because we want to share our lives and dreams with a WW or BM, and don't live a life regulated by racist social norms, such as racial segregation. To see an almost Jim Crow-like section on this board makes me shiver.

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    I think it would be enough if people on this board would just take a minute or two and think about how the post will make someone feel before they hit the submit button.

    My suggestion is to keep sugar as the moderator, but to rename this section into "heated discussions" or something like that. Then all the controversial threads and discussions can be stored and discussed here.
     
  17. Silvercosma

    Silvercosma New Member

    Those were exactly my thoughts!
     
  18. sugar_baby

    sugar_baby New Member

    Silvercosma, I agree with you about the name of the section, it kind of made me feel weird too. I didn't choose the name and thought along the same lines as you, that maybe a debate area might be more in order. Basically a place for heated discussions that don't get locked. Also, like I said before, I think most of the female posters have left anyway, so a female only section may not work.

    MistressB, I will be sorry to see you go, but I understand why you would do so.

    And to all the guys, I hope you don't think that my argument was aimed at all of you because it was not. I only had a gripe with a few posters.

    As far as me moderating, that was the webmaster reacting to my post which was originally in the 'conversations' area. To be honest I don't know if I want the job as I am not around all the time, but who knows?
     
  19. jxsilicon9

    jxsilicon9 Active Member

    I might be leaving also. Especially if I continue to see threads about women with guns,waders and other crap. Or mulatto women threads.Or whos the sexiest food network ww. It seems the forum has become crap.
     
  20. sugar_baby

    sugar_baby New Member

    You know what jxsilicon9, I completely agree with you. Some of the post border on the downright ridiculous and some are offensive. I wouldn't blame you for considering leaving, but I hope you don't. I think we should all try to stick it out and maybe start some thought provoking, interesting posts. I'll try to think of a few myself instead of always complaining. :D
     

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