How many Calls to a woman?

[Tarshibear]

Originally Posted by Bookworm616

This is so true. But it doesn't just refer to women. There are lots of men out there who have incredibly low self-esteem who allow women to walk all over them and dominate their lives.

People who allow themselves to be treated like crap are in a vicious cycle that they've probably been exposed to for most of their lives and they don't feel they deserve to be treated any better and they probably feel "lucky" that the other person wants to be with them, so they allow themselves to be doormats.

They suffer from very low self-esteem, self-confidence, self-reliance, everything related to self.

exactly joanie, wish i could rep you again. it's a learned behaviour.

[Dmacho]

Originally Posted by Bookworm616

This is so true. But it doesn't just refer to women. There are lots of men out there who have incredibly low self-esteem who allow women to walk all over them and dominate their lives.

People who allow themselves to be treated like crap are in a vicious cycle that they've probably been exposed to for most of their lives and they don't feel they deserve to be treated any better and they probably feel "lucky" that the other person wants to be with them, so they allow themselves to be doormats.

They suffer from very low self-esteem, self-confidence, self-reliance, everything related to self.

It's a little different with men though. Usually, those men don't have a lot opportunities to meet and date women. I've seen women who could have practically any man they wanted, yet they stick with the Ahole.

[Bookworm616]

Originally Posted by Dmacho

It's a little different with men though. Usually, those men don't have a lot opportunities to meet and date women. I've seen women who could have practically any man they wanted, yet they stick with the Ahole.

They don't have a lot of opportunities, because they lack the self-confidence. They don't think they have what it takes to find a woman who will treat them well.

Just like women who are doormats don't have alot of opportunities. They lack confidence in themselves and take the first guy that shows interest in them.

[Espy]

Originally Posted by Athena

I agree with this observation Espy. My ex told me that my confidence and independence was a huge turn on for him initially but he grew to hate it. Yes he used the word "hate".

LMAO! Where have I heard that before, and how many times? Maybe there's a book we don't know about... 'Men who love and then loathe self-confident women, the 10 step approach to putting her in her place.'

[Maruti Man]

Originally Posted by Bookworm616

What an interesting thread. Thanks for bringing it back up from the trenches.
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No thanks

what are you thanking him for ? This is what the newbies always do digging up old threads expecting response from ex-members who are no longer active in this forum don't you think it's wiser to start new thread with the same topic ?

[Bookworm616]

Originally Posted by Maruti Man

No thanks

what are you thanking him for ? This is what the newbies always do digging up old threads expecting response from ex-members who are no longer active in this forum don't you think it's wiser to start new thread with the same topic ?

Why start a new thread to say the same thing when there are perfectly good older threads that have already been started?

I don't see the issue with it. I don't think they're trying to get older members to come out of the woodwork. I think it's an interesting topic and instead of having 5 threads dealing with the same topic (which happens enough) why not bring back an old thread?

It's not hurting anyone. And it's interesting to see the different perspective of people who have left their "voice" here so we can know how they think and see different POVs.

[Dmacho]

Originally Posted by Bookworm616

They don't have a lot of opportunities, because they lack the self-confidence. They don't think they have what it takes to find a woman who will treat them well.

Just like women who are doormats don't have alot of opportunities. They lack confidence in themselves and take the first guy that shows interest in them.

I've known girls that had guys asking them out or trying to talk to them left and right , yet they still keep dealing with the same d**k head.

[Aesop]

Originally Posted by Flyingeek

Acctually, its not only women that look at kindness as a weakness.. Its equally the same the other way around.

It appears to me that there a lot of these types of complaints about women on this board, but what I find curious, is that you dont see the same complaints comming from the women.

I think a lot of men, somehow forget the fact that the vast majority of problems you are complaining about in regards to women is reversible.
We complain about the exact s a m e stuff as men..
Most issues brought up here are human issues, not female issues or male issues.. such as this one.

(Disclaimer: Clearly there are stuff that are gender specific)


Men take kindness in women as a sign weakness ALL the time.
Trust me on that one.

You're right. There are some men that take a woman's kindness for weakness. I would like for my lady to be an intelligent and kind woman because those are some of the qualities that make a lady "A Lady". Too bad there are some dickheads out there that feel differently because they make it harder for men like me. I genuinely hear you concern for this issue FG.

[christine dubois]

Originally Posted by Aesop

You're right. There are some men that take a woman's kindness for weakness. I would like for my lady to be an intelligent and kind woman because those are some of the qualities that make a lady "A Lady". Too bad there are some dickheads out there that feel differently because they make it harder for men like me. I genuinely hear you concern for this issue FG.

Not true, it makes the selection much easier..

A weak man is looking for a weak woman..otherwise he has problems to control her and out of the reason that he has not much to say in general, he wants to be the boss at least at his own house.

A self confident man doesn´t fear the competition of his woman, he knows who he is, and takes more care about her charm, her intelligence, her character. "He enjoys his Lady"

But anyway, you are a honey!!

[Flyingeek]

Originally Posted by christine dubois

Not true, it makes the selection much easier..

A weak man is looking for a weak woman..otherwise he has problems to control her and out of the reason that he has not much to say in general, he wants to be the boss at least at his own house.

A self confident man doesn´t fear the competition of his woman, he knows who he is, and takes more care about her charm, her intelligence, her character. "He enjoys his Lady"

But anyway, you are a honey!!

I dissagree.. somewhat..but not completely.

I think this is a cunundrum for both sexes...... Sure, it weeds out the "unworthy" at some point, but it may take a while before we see that.
but it surely doenst make it "easier". You still have to endure the pain.. and hopefully, we dont bring it forward.